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*VANITY* - Where do ~we~ stand in the wake of Katrina?
me | Sept 14, 2005 | HairOfTheDog

Posted on 09/14/2005 3:32:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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For your consideration, and hopefully, civil discussion. :~D
1 posted on 09/14/2005 3:32:35 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh; Corin Stormhands; Ramius; 300winmag; 2Jedismom; g'nad; osagebowman; Overtaxed; RMDupree; ...

Pinging a few friends....

For your consideration ;~D


2 posted on 09/14/2005 3:34:53 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Bump


3 posted on 09/14/2005 3:35:16 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Islam and liberalism are terminal..)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Bump


4 posted on 09/14/2005 3:41:15 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: HairOfTheDog

I am bothered by all the racist talk on here of late, especially people pretending to talk like ghetto blacks. Enough of that already.

That said, it is hard for me to keep an open heart and continue to donate when the other side calls America racist, this was all the fault of Republicans and white people, etc.

I am also concerned about how much money this "relief" operation is going to cost. Is it going to be a lottery for people who never took care of themselves or planned for unforeseen circumstances?

Thank you for your post.


5 posted on 09/14/2005 3:41:52 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: HairOfTheDog

That's a very good post.

I've seen a few people condemn the evacuees, but most of us condemn the Mayor and Governor who made virtually zero effort to help those who were disabled, poor or just didn't have a car.

The leaders of New Orleans turned away the Red Cross, Salvation Army and National Guardsmen ready to maintain civil order in New Orleans. It is the leaders I'm angry with, and I'd guess fully 95% of Freepers are angry with.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 3:42:03 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

We've heard so much about the reprehensible behavior of what I'm fairly sure is a small percentage of the survivors, and so much political posturing by the press, that we may be forgetting that there were many good, hardworking and decent Americans who's lives have been forever changed by this tragedy. Your post reminds us that it is those who are worthy of our prayers and efforts, and not the dregs and opportunists who seem to be drowning out the voices of the truly compassionate in this dark time.


7 posted on 09/14/2005 3:42:10 PM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: rdb3; mhking

A ping to wish you were here :~D


8 posted on 09/14/2005 3:42:10 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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I agree with a great part of what you say. The part I do not agree with is the blame game. We did not start this game of blaming the democrats. They did. To sit idly by and take all the blame would be our ruination.

Once the truth outs, then the blame game can stop. Until then, I will be placing blame where it justly belongs to those in the media that will listen with one hand, while helping the people I can with the other.

I'm sorry this offends you, but I see no viable alternative.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 3:49:25 PM PDT by publana
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To: HairOfTheDog

Thank you very much for writing and posting this. I too was getting very frustrated with the self-righteous tone of FR posters around here, and your post was a long overdue dose of sanity here.


10 posted on 09/14/2005 3:50:26 PM PDT by NetLiberty
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To: publana; Uncle Joe Cannon

You and Uncle Joe Cannon both mention the blame game on the part of the democrats. It pisses me off too. Of course it does.

We can certainly counter it.... What I don't want to do is ~be~ it.


11 posted on 09/14/2005 3:52:39 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Spok; Peach

Thanks :~D


12 posted on 09/14/2005 3:55:21 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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I've found the debate on Free Republic and elsewhere nearly intolerable in the wake of Katrina.

I guess I just gloss over the crap, because I haven't noticed anything intolerable. There are a lot of idiots around, but one doesn't necessarily have to acknowledge them, or give them any credit.
13 posted on 09/14/2005 3:55:50 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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That said, it is hard for me to keep an open heart and continue to donate when the other side calls America racist, this was all the fault of Republicans and white people, etc.

The ideologues who do this are no more representative of the other side than the modern-day KKK'ers on this board are of the Right.

Only a small minority sees this event as the result of a right -wing conspiracy of overt racism. Only a small minority thinks that those blacks got what they deserved. The majority - and indeed, the only people whose opinions are worth listening to - recognize that this is a tragedy caused by nature, and exacerbated by the gap between rich and poor found in America and by incompetance by New Orleans, Louisiana, and Federal officials.

Pay no mind to the racists - either the ones who take the entitlement mentality or the ones who think those blacks got what they deserved. No one gives a crap what they think. They don't speak for me.

14 posted on 09/14/2005 3:55:56 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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I guess I just gloss over the crap...There are a lot of idiots around, but one doesn't necessarily have to acknowledge them, or give them any credit.

A lot of people do. A lot of good people just ignore all the intolerable crap that's been posted. Many don't really want to take on the idiots and get into flame wars.

Only problem is, if we don't acknowledge it, if we don't fight it, someone reading might assume we accept or agree with it. I don't want only the fringes to control this discussion.

15 posted on 09/14/2005 4:01:01 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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It is hard, very hard. I know many here are upset that the Pres. hasn't gotten in the mud with the Dem fingerpointing game. I'd love to see him hit back, but I know that what he's doing now is the right thing.

Anyway.. no matter how "provoked", there is simply no excuse for racism. I really wish people would stop it with their cute little jibes and remarks, and the ghetto speak. I never saw these sort of comments when I used to lurk (pre-Katrina). These sentiments do not represent or reflect the party of Ronald Reagan, in my opinion. They do it great discredit.

I can only imagine how our good black Freepers feel when the read some of this bilge.


16 posted on 09/14/2005 4:01:55 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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Many don't really want to take on the idiots and get into flame wars.

It can be very exasperating! But, I see your point about others (e.g., visitors) assuming it's widespread if it's not countered.
17 posted on 09/14/2005 4:03:15 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Great post!


18 posted on 09/14/2005 4:03:25 PM PDT by technochick99 (Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: AppyPappy

here


19 posted on 09/14/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
These sentiments do not represent or reflect the party of Ronald Reagan, in my opinion. They do it great discredit.

I agree.

I can only imagine how our good black Freepers feel when the read some of this bilge.

Two of the most prominent, rdb3, and mhking, left. I am sorry for that, and trying to show them that many on this forum, do want them here.

20 posted on 09/14/2005 4:05:10 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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