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Intelligent design [was] old news to Darwin
Chicago Tribune ^
| 13 September 2005
| Tom Hundley
Posted on 09/13/2005 4:15:07 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Do you think it would be "dreadful" if everyone believed in your God (assuming you believe in God)? If God chose to make Himself perfectly clear to everyone, then it would make sense if we all believed the same thing and we would know what was expected at all times. That clearly has not happened yet in history. I don't really expect it. Mostly, I don't see how anyone thinks they know things that involve "spiritual matters." (That is, matters which cannot be determined from investigation of the material world.)
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:37:27 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: Doctor Stochastic
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I don't believe in God (I know He exists). However, we're not talking about whether it's a good thing for others to believe in Him. The problem lies in that every believer in God has his or her own interpretation of what God wants. I do not trust others' interpretations of God's desires any more than I suspect they trust mine. We're still dealing with people, not God.
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT
by
Junior
(Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
To: Junior
Tutankhamen did attempt to push montheism onto Egypt.
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:43:05 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Doctor Stochastic
And look where it got him. He was knocked off in his teens and his religious beliefs were suppressed.
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:46:18 PM PDT
by
Junior
(Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I'm been surprised by the outright deception that's been offered around here. Here's the editor of Chalcedon Reports in his own words., on a sympathetic web site.
For nearly a century and a half the National Reform Association has pressed for the crown rights of Jesus Christ in the political life of the nation. This implies a nation covenanted with God. One of the (though by no means the only) means of doing this is formal recognition of the authority of our Triune God and of Christianity in the prime political instrument(s) of the nation. Another means is requiring Christian test oaths for the civil magistrate and for all voters in a democracy.
Note the obvious and direct conflict with Article VI of the Constitution.
To: Doctor Stochastic
Tutankhamen did attempt to push montheism onto Egypt. Akhenaton was the main author of that push. Tut, who apparently came to the throne as Tutankhaten, probably reigned during the restoration of Amon-Ra worship and died as Tutankhamen.
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:49:02 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: VadeRetro
"If God chose to make Himself perfectly clear to everyone, then it would make sense if we all believed the same thing and we would know what was expected at all times. That clearly has not happened yet in history. I don't really expect it. Mostly, I don't see how anyone thinks they know things that involve "spiritual matters." (That is, matters which cannot be determined from investigation of the material world.)"
You are a bright intelligent individual. Now there is a reason for the flesh age, and as it is written that it is NOT given for all to understand and the reason for that is because it is for their protection.
Now I do not claim to have full understanding, no man in the flesh ever has, except for Christ.
Consider we are not told when the soul was created, yet we are told that it was the soul that made Adam alive. Now you know there was life many many years ago, yet during that age there are no "flesh man fossils". That does not mean that the soul was not in existence during the time that fossils were formed.
Consider that thought the soul that spirit body that was placed in the flesh body as old as the dinos.
To: general_re
The answer would seem to be "none of them". I will consider the possibility that some are out of contest, if someone will provide a link to the original context.
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:51:20 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Just mythoughts
Now there is a reason for the flesh age, and as it is written that it is NOT given for all to understand and the reason for that is because it is for their protection. I would seem to be well protected by your post. ;)
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:53:36 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Do you think it would be "dreadful" if everyone believed in your God (assuming you believe in God)?
Yes, because any concept I might have of God would be imperfect and flawed.
To: VadeRetro
The great God Ra whose shrine once covered acres is filler now for
crossword puzzles. -- Kieth Preston
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:55:04 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Get me a link to the context.
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:55:31 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: js1138
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:56:44 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray)
To: VadeRetro
"I would seem to be well protected by your post. ;)"
As are many. Some creationists included.
To: Dr. Eckleburg
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posted on
09/15/2005 6:59:12 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: ml1954
...any concept I might have of God would be imperfect and flawed. The inference from your remark here is that you believe your God to be imperfect and flawed.
So to restate the question, if you believe your God to be perfect, would it be a "good thing" for everyone to believe in that perfect God?
And if you believe your God to be "imperfect and flawed," what have you been drinking?
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posted on
09/15/2005 7:02:39 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
And I much prefer it to the alternative. Therefore, it is true. One of the Roman emperors commanded the tides to stand still, but you have asserted that all existence bows to your personal wishes.
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posted on
09/15/2005 7:04:15 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
The inference from your remark here is that you believe your God to be imperfect and flawed.
It infers no such thing. Nice try.
To: Dr. Eckleburg
...any concept I might have of God would be imperfect and flawed.
To clarify, my concept would be imperfect and flawed.
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