Pastor Hauled Before Tribunal Over Gay Comments

ReligionJournal.com ^ | 9/9/05

[Unam Sanctam]

"I know nothing about human rights case law,"

In Canada, apparently the law is that you have no human rights. This is absolutely disgusting -- so much for freedom of speech up there!

[hombre_sincero]

We welcome HIS KIND here in the USA.

Preacher .... COME ON DOWN!

[Unam Sanctam]

Are there no pro bono groups willing to help in the legal defense of Christians' human rights in Canada?

[randog]

Sending priests to jail for teaching scripture--if that doesn't wake up Canadians then I don't know what will.

[Fitzcarraldo]

"...Should Boissoin lose the hearing with the Human Rights Tribunal, he will be forced to pay $7,000 in fines -- $5,000 will go to Darren Lund personally, and another $2,000 will go to the rabidly pro-gay-rights group EGALE Canada, which has received large sums of money in the past from the federal government for its court challenges. In addition, Lund has requested that Boissoin be forced to apologize to his readers in another letter to be published in the Red Deer Advocate. Boissoin, however, says that he will not pay those fines, nor will he apologize, even should that mean prison..."

Not even the masters of Sodom and Gomorrah could exact such a penalty from Abraham and his family. God wouldn't have allow it.

[CindyDawg]

Actually he may be exactly where is supposed to be.

[Fitzcarraldo]

Actually he may be exactly where is supposed to be.

You mean to conduct a prison ministry?

[expatguy]

The same kind of things are already happening in our own country.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

[pageonetoo]

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms

Rights and freedoms in Canada

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

Fundamental Freedoms

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:

a) freedom of conscience and religion;

b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;

c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and

d) freedom of association...

Maybe I missed something, but this seems a good enough defense.

[CindyDawg]

That's a possibility I guess. I was talking about spreading the Gospel to the one's on the other side of the bars though.

[Question Liberal Authority]

Do they have similar tribunals for people who say bad things about pastors?

[Fitzcarraldo]

It being Canada, given this case, soon preaching the Gospel behind bars will be like preaching to the choir.

[Question Liberal Authority]

Canada has laws?

Can anyone explain why the Queen of England is on their money if they're supposed to be an independent country?

[Unam Sanctam]

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

The qualifier is big enough for any activist judge to drive a Mack truck through... Of course US justices have interpreted the Constitution to allow certain limited restrictions on free speech, but it hasn't gone this far, yet!

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

"Can anyone explain why the Queen of England is on their money if they're supposed to be an independent country?"

Queen Elizabeth is not only the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; she is also the Queen of Canada (as well as several other countries), Head of the Commonwealth (53 countries formerly part of the British Empire), and Supreme Governor of the Church of England.

The Queen acts as the Head of State -- a role that is largely ceremonial. In the U.S., the President is the Head of State, and also head of the administrative branch of government, with real powers.

Countries outside of England also have Governor Generals, who carry out the ceremonial functions of the Head of State on behalf of the Queen -- except during Royal visits.

I'm not saying that this all makes sense -- it's just what you get when you muddle through very gradual constitutional change, rather than revolutionary change.

[Hess28]

We need to contact Jake Sekeluw (or whatever his name is) to see if he can help this guy in his case, including financial assistance if needed.

Well get on it people!

Okay, I 'll do it.

[Question Liberal Authority]

Thank you for the explanation. It still doesn't make any sense.

I know that Canada celebrates it's "independence" on July 1 because of something that happened in 1867. What exactly was different on July 1, 1867 from, say, June 30 1867?

[Allan]

The Canadian 'Charter of Rights' is BS.

In Canada you say what the rulers tell you to say
and do what the rulers tell you to do.

Period.

That's the way Canadian's like it.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

"I know that Canada celebrates it's "independence" on July 1 because of something that happened in 1867. What exactly was different on July 1, 1867 from, say, June 30 1867."

July 1 is called "Canada Day" (formerly "Dominion Day"). It is the anniversary of the Confederation of various colonies in British North America to form the "Confederation of Canada".

Canada became independent of Britain much the same way that North America became independent of Pangaea -- we just sort of drifted apart.