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We Shut Down the Bridge
Washington Times & UPI via NRO ^ | Sep. 9, 2005 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:37 AM PDT by hipaatwo

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To: dirtboy
This is the Wash Times.

The Wash Times isn't saying that people were dying of starvation after 48 hours in the Superdome.

201 posted on 09/09/2005 12:20:39 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: dirtboy

Now you've gone to the absurd.

I know the Ben Frank like the back of my hand. Wouldn't want it.

The Bettsy Ross is a lot smoother.


202 posted on 09/09/2005 12:21:05 PM PDT by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: Al Gator

Is the bridge private property?

If not, if belongs to the people of Louisiana and the guy had no right shutting it down, I don't care what he thinks the people might do to his town.

Until they did it, they were innocents...we do still believe that don't we...innocent until proven guilty?


203 posted on 09/09/2005 12:22:05 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Al Gator
Don't matter who owns the stinking bridge. At that time, at that place, he had a bigger gun.

True. He seized it by conquest under color of authority.

I hope the Fraternal Brotherhood has a legal defense benefit for him.

204 posted on 09/09/2005 12:22:29 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: mhking
I forgot. Mayor Nagin doesn't know how to drive a school bus...

They're not airconditioned.

205 posted on 09/09/2005 12:22:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Al Gator

"You guys don't get it. "

Oh, we get it, all right. This guy didn't want the riff-raff from NO in his town. So, he took it upon himself to close a public roadway in the midst of a disaster, preventing people from escaping the disaster.

I think we have it just about right. Either the citizens of the USA have freedom of movement on the public roadways or they do not. He far exceeded his authority. The wonder of it is that it was allowed to continue.


206 posted on 09/09/2005 12:23:00 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: wideawake
The Wash Times isn't saying that people were dying of starvation after 48 hours in the Superdome.

A cop was saying they were dying of dehydration in the Convention Center.

But you'd rather quibble rather than confront the main story.

207 posted on 09/09/2005 12:23:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy
Are we so concerned with property that we don't give a damn about helping DYING PEOPLE?

Do you have a stat on how many people died on the Crescent City Connection that day?

Hint: it's probably zero.

209 posted on 09/09/2005 12:24:40 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: dirtboy
A cop was saying they were dying of dehydration in the Convention Center.

And this claim was made on Wednesday? Can you verify that?

Do we know have authenticated reports of people who died of dehydration at the Convention Center?

210 posted on 09/09/2005 12:26:12 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Interloper
The Major described how the same day Nagin was screeming for everybody to get off their arses and get him supplies, the Red Cross was ready with supplies just across the overpass. The Red Cross was not allowed to enter NOL.

Now we hear this story where people in NOL are not allowed across the overpass/bridge.

My question is, "is this the same overpass/bridge?" From what the Major said, I believe it may be.

211 posted on 09/09/2005 12:26:18 PM PDT by rit
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To: MineralMan
You are forgetting something.

And the guys who are in a bunch over firearms confiscation are forgetting something.

At times of catastrophe, the Constitution gets suspended. Martial law is in effect, and things happen.

They may not be right, they may be harsh. But I'll bet a dollar against your doughnut that nothing happens to Chiefski. He'll probably get a raise.

No, at times of high calamity, your rights take a back seat. Aint right, but that's the way of the world.
212 posted on 09/09/2005 12:27:59 PM PDT by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: wideawake
Nitpick, nitpick.

I guess by your standards, someone should have been just about dead of dehyrdration before allowing to walk over the bridge.

213 posted on 09/09/2005 12:28:22 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

Lyrical image, db. But highly unlikely. Had the small groups been allowed into Gretna, larger groups would have followed. If the town were completely evacuated, there was no one there to assist those in need. It would not have been the Opie-at-the-garden-hose-in-Mayberry scene you suggest.


214 posted on 09/09/2005 12:28:32 PM PDT by Boatlawyer
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To: wideawake
>>Are we so concerned with property that we don't give a damn about helping DYING PEOPLE?

Do you have a stat on how many people died on the Crescent City Connection that day?

Hint: it's probably zero.

I don't doubt that, but then again why would anyone have died there if they had been turned away?

215 posted on 09/09/2005 12:29:00 PM PDT by drungus
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To: rit

Right. The authorities wouldn't let people in to help nor out to get their own and then those authorities screamed for help in dealing with the chaos that ensued. And they blamed Bush. Anyone who can justify this, Republican or Democrat is appaling.


216 posted on 09/09/2005 12:29:04 PM PDT by mosquitobite
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To: wideawake

There were 100s of square miles untouched in New Orleans. 1000s of stores, trucks full of supplies, warehouses, everything in the world needed to supply the everyone at the Dome and Convention center a 100 times over. In fact, there where tons upon tons of needed supplies within miles. Check the Katrina pictures on maps.google.com.

You will be surprised at the large land mass relatively untouched. They could have provided for the people left behind without breaking a sweat, if they had a leader.


217 posted on 09/09/2005 12:29:10 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: Boatlawyer

So protect private property even if people are dying, eh? That's what it all comes down to. Make sure the Circle K doesn't get broken into. After all, it's just that trash in NOLA that's dying.


218 posted on 09/09/2005 12:29:49 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

Amazing. Shall we tell them that the cop in charge of this is a Democrat? Do you think that would change their tune?


219 posted on 09/09/2005 12:31:01 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: dirtboy
I guess by your standards, someone should have been just about dead of dehyrdration before allowing to walk over the bridge.

My standard is this: if you're going to accuse someone of effectively murdering people by not letting them cross a bridge, you should have proof that people actually died at the scene as a direct result of his actions.

Otehrwise, you're slandering someone.

An accusation like this should require a pretty high standard of proof.

220 posted on 09/09/2005 12:31:39 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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