Posted on 09/08/2005 7:01:08 AM PDT by cogitator
I read another article, and the memos have been made public before. But they're worth a re-read.
If this is true, I have the tar, feathers, rope and a tall tree.
Wow! I am bookmarking this one. Thanks.
The natural response of the Democrats will be to gleefully pounce on the Republicans and "Big Oil." The natural response of the Republicans should be to enact regulations to make it easier to build refineries or to re-open the ones which were closed. Maybe throw in a little trust-busting lawsuit to protect the "little guys."
BTW, notice how all these memos are during clinton administartion.
Mike
Wonder how much money was "donated" to the Klintoon reelection/slush fund for all of this?
I once worked in refinery construction and maintenance. It is not that easy to restart one that is been sitting idle for years.
""Large oil companies have for a decade artificially shorted the gasoline market to drive up prices," said FTCR president Jamie Court, who successfully fought to keep Shell Oil from needlessly closing its Bakersfield, California refinery this year. "Oil companies know they can make more money by making less gasoline. Katrina should be a wakeup call to America that the refiners profit widely when they keep the system running on empty."
"It's now obvious to most Americans that we have a refinery shortage," said petroleum consultant Tim Hamilton, who authored a recent report about oil company price gouging for FTCR. (Read the report at http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/energy/rp/ ) "To point to the environmental laws as the cause simply misses the fact that it was the major oil companies, not the environmental groups, that used the regulatory process to create artificial shortages and limit competition.""
This has been in the news for 6 months, but the gubmint don't give a rats a$$ !!!!!!!!!!1
Seems like they're working more at the state level, not the national level. (I.e., California). Not the Chevron memo, though, which was only about statements made at a meeting.
Due to the nightmare of red tape and lawsuits it takes to build new refineries, the free market has not been able to work to allow competition to balance out the market.
LOL. So now the author of the piece expects us to suppose a competitive decision back in 1996...9 years ago...is relevant to today's prices.
Oil is a product like any other: bought and sold according to supply and demand. Get the freaking government out of the equation. Lower the insane taxes on the product. Let companies drill for oil where there is oil.
That'll bring the prices down real quick. Or maybe it won't--demand may continue to rise. Economics.
Yeah, I imagine that the metal has rusted and corroded a lot in a refinery that has been idle for a long period of time. Still, some juicy tax breaks might help.
Still all these memos are from the time of the clinton administration, an administartion that put many roadblocks up through the EPA etc.etc. and blocked new exploration and building of new refineries.
I figured as much. This ticks me off to no end!
We had 314 refineries in 1981. Now we had 149 but the demand is higher. It seems to me that by closing refineries, they ARE raising prices for no good reason.
If they have continued the practice of limiting refining capacity to keep prices high, then this IS relevant to today's prices. The pinch due to Katrina has been blamed on the fact that no new refineries have been built since 1976 -- Rush even highlighted this. Maybe if refineries hadn't been shut down there wouldn't be a need to build new ones?
I suspect that there are reasons that older refineries were shut down separate from trying to keep prices high. I hope that's at least part of the explanation.
My guess it is true. Oil companies are quasi monolopies and have great resources to tweak their production to keep prices high. It's why they haven't taken states to court to build new refineries in the name of the common good to have redundencies for gas supplies. They will spend billions for rigs and for the rights for drilling sites but won't fight to to build new refineries. Also lay blame to politicians who are on the hook of oil lobbyists.
This is where american ingenuity needs to come in and have someone make a more efficient engine. I really do think there is internal research that has produced extremely cheap efficient engines that will never see the light of day because it will upset the auto economy.
Also, newer technology enables MODERN refineries to use heavy crude, which is cheaper than the Light sweet crude. Of course, the Enviros, crooked pols, and the oil industry is keeping THAT from happening.
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