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FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit
NewsMax ^ | September 7, 2005 | NewsMax Wires

Posted on 09/06/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: Coop
His legal and financial background brought him into disaster preparedness...

Huh? I don't see it. His full resume just shows how politically connected he was. And unlike Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, et al., Brown has no actual achievements beyond his political appointments. He was, and is, a lightweight who does not deserve a position of such responsibility. Imho, this is a weakness of GWB. He's too ready to give authority to the incompetent. Norm Mineta, anyone?

581 posted on 09/07/2005 9:31:33 AM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
Huh? I don't see it.

Then try opening your eyes. The bio does a nice job of tying together his relevant experience. He has plenty of achievements - you're being completely dishonest to say otherwise.

582 posted on 09/07/2005 9:33:25 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Coop
"His legal and financial background brought him into disaster preparedness..."

That explains why his performance at the task sucked then.

" Of course he had political connections. So did Rumsfeld, and Condi, and Dick Cheney, and Colin Powell, and Tom Ridge, and Tommy Thompson...

The difference, is that those folks are competent.

" Brown was and is WELL qualified to be FEMA's head.

The snow job disappeared in the heat.

583 posted on 09/07/2005 9:35:52 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Coop

No fact shall be allowed to intrude upon their minds and generate a independent thought.


584 posted on 09/07/2005 9:36:16 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Coop
An objective reader could not (with a straight face anyway) claim Mr. Brown is not qualified to lead FEMA.

I just got a completely different impression after reading his resume posted by you.

Unqualified is a mild term.

585 posted on 09/07/2005 9:36:45 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: 1035rep

and not a single poll gives any credence to their assertations


586 posted on 09/07/2005 9:38:04 AM PDT by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: spunkets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478886/posts?page=561#561

Every time you post your drivel, I'll be helpfully including this reminder link until you have the gonads to address it.

587 posted on 09/07/2005 9:38:55 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I'm going to make one more statement and leave this thread before I get banned.

I'm so fed up with all the local and state gov. trying to blame FEMA and Bush for their failures. Some of you FReepers are swallowing the Hillary Clinton koolaid and it makes me sick.

The politicans in my state have endangered my life and my families lives by not having the balls to get the job done. They allowed the looting and killing to spread. Now, some of the evacuees who could be responsible for rapping and slitting the throat of a seven year old, and gang raping a five year old could be in my community.

Crime in the rural areas is spreading outwards from where some of them are lodged. I'm alone all day, with no neighbors near. When I go after my disabled daughter after school, I have to walk a quarter of a mile down a deserted dirt road with woods all around me. Today when I go after her, I won't be alone. I'm sitting here at my desk with my doors locked(never did it before) a .45 not 12 inches from my reach and a 12.ga 10 feet away. This afternoon, I'll have that .45 tucked into my waistband.

Because of my local and state governments incompetence, this is the way things are for me now. They allowed things to get out of hand and are now blaming FEMA and Bush for their failures.

So you bet I'm pissed.

588 posted on 09/07/2005 9:39:25 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: george wythe
I just got a completely different impression after reading his resume posted by you. Unqualified is a mild term.

Then I can, mildly and without qualification, say that you were not objective when you read the resume.

589 posted on 09/07/2005 9:40:23 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: NavyCaptain

That't right--how any $millions$ were mistakenly given to Miami/Dade county residents when the hurricanes MISSED THEM. Total chaos in Fema.....


590 posted on 09/07/2005 9:40:45 AM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: Coop
He has plenty of achievements - you're being completely dishonest to say otherwise.

List a few of his "achievments," then.

591 posted on 09/07/2005 9:41:19 AM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: Coop
"Every time you post your drivel, I'll be helpfully including this reminder link until you have the gonads to address it."

Your post #561 has nothing to do with prepositioned compensation for the cokehead's dome plan. The dome happening occurred w/o compensation. Or, are you going to argue that FEMA did compensate and what happened at the dome was their best efforts?

592 posted on 09/07/2005 9:42:47 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: teawithmisswilliams
Was he appointed to city council? Did his politically connected buddies take the bar exam for him?

They're on the bio. Read it again yourself. You just don't like what you read. I can live with that, and I'm quite sure Mr. Brown can as well.

593 posted on 09/07/2005 9:44:55 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: gondramB
I think you are missing the point. These are Homeland security people from outside FEMA. This doesn't mean that there were not also FEMA people being sent on a different schedule.

You are correct, as are all the people noting that FEMA is not supposed to be a first-responder -- they're not even supposed to be in-field until about 96 hours after the disaster occurred.

FoxNews had to issue a sort of correction a little while ago. Fox to its shame (with Catherine Herridge) had jumped on this FEMA "memo" report as some sort of smoking gun, too.

Fox's clarification was that the FEMA memo wasn't nearly as significant as the media were making it out to be because the persons Brown was addressing in it were only VOLUNTEERS -- not paid, trained rescue personnel.

594 posted on 09/07/2005 9:46:15 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: Coop
Then I can, mildly and without qualification, say that you were not objective when you read the resume.

Neither were you, obviously.

595 posted on 09/07/2005 9:47:11 AM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: pbrown
Don't leave, most of these are just DU posters and the moderator is just letting the FReepers tag and bag a few.
596 posted on 09/07/2005 9:47:43 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: spunkets; SandyInSeattle
Your post #561 has nothing to do with prepositioned compensation for the cokehead's dome plan. The dome happening occurred w/o compensation. Or, are you going to argue that FEMA did compensate and what happened at the dome was their best efforts?

Hey Sandy, am I psychic or what?!? LOL.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478886/posts?page=561#561

Every time you post your drivel, I'll be helpfully including this reminder link until you have the gonads to address it.

597 posted on 09/07/2005 9:48:07 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: buckleyfan
I can live with your misguided opinion. :-)

But you'll notice some of us are quite good at backing up our opinions (and we tend to be on one side of the Brown argument) with data, while some others on the other side struggle greatly to come up with anything at all.

598 posted on 09/07/2005 9:50:00 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Coop
If you had been the FEMA director, would you have allowed your children, your grandchildren or your elderly grandparents to spend several days in a freeway exposed to 95-degree heat with no water and food?

The media broadcast the location over and over again, but FEMA could not find them. Similarly, FEMA was commandeering buses from people who wanted to escape the city, but FEMA did not now that the bus passengers were left behind to their own devices?

Anyway, we have to agree to disagree. IMHO, Brown should go back to being a lawyer.

599 posted on 09/07/2005 9:50:12 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: george wythe
If you had been the FEMA director, would you have allowed your children, your grandchildren or your elderly grandparents to spend several days in a freeway exposed to 95-degree heat with no water and food?

If I were FEMA Director, I'd be working furiously with the officials who actually have jurisdiction over that debacle.

And just because folks suffered doesn't mean LEOs, volunteers and others weren't busting buns to try to help them. It's a frickin' natural disaster of epic proportions. Planning and coordination only go so far.

600 posted on 09/07/2005 9:52:19 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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