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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: All

This may be posted here, I looked but couldn't find it:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3kt.htm

NEW ORLEANS FLASHBACK: OFFICALS WARNED RESIDENTS 'YOU'LL BE ON YOUR OWN'
Mon Sep 05 2005 18:57:15 ET

Before residents had ever heard the words "Hurricane Katrina," the New Orleans TIMES-PICAYUNE ran a story warning residents: If you stay behind during a big storm, you'll be on your own!

Editors at TIMES-PICAYUNE on Monday called for every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency to be fired. In an open letter to President Bush, the paper said: "Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame."

But the TIMES-PICAYUNE published a story on July 24, 2005 stating: City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give a historically blunt message: "In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own."

Staff writer Bruce Nolan reported some 7 weeks before Katrina: "In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation."

"In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation.

"You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you," Wilkins said in an interview. "If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you."

Developing...


2,501 posted on 09/05/2005 4:16:46 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: advance_copy

maybe RFK Jr could ride in that boat with Sean Penn, taking water samples from the lake with that red dixie cup.


2,502 posted on 09/05/2005 4:17:04 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Petronski

There was an article posted here a couple places in the last week dated just after Hurricane Ivan -- the owner(s) of the Super Dome were upset at the idea of it being a "refuge of last resort" because it was completely unequipped to be an emergency shelter.

I don't understand why the city hasn't worked with the ownership to have emergency power...they seemed to give absolutely no thought to equipping it or what the outcome of a castrophe would be...yet FReepers here predicted what conditions in the Dome would be like *before* Katrina hit. They should have had half a clue themselves in the government...


2,503 posted on 09/05/2005 4:17:07 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Pointblank

Welcome back.


2,504 posted on 09/05/2005 4:17:46 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Petronski
The thing about the Super Dome that bothers the hell out of me is the electricity. It's designated the final refuge and it has no alternative power?

The Dome was designated a "Last Resort Refuge." The term was defined in the official LA emergency plan differently than what you, the media, the people who went there and common sense would think it meant. On this, alas, they followed the plan. Details at my post upthread here.

2,505 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:02 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: RDTF

own thread now:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478052/posts


2,506 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:03 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Crawdad

This sounds like a Drudge siren - got a link?


2,507 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: ohioWfan
Get this guy to WH briefings

Make him the White House spokeman and get rid of Scotty McC.

2,508 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:21 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Presby Conservative
Inspector General Report
The West Jefferson Levee District is responsible for drainage, flood control and water resources development in the portion of Jefferson Parish on the west side of the Mississippi River. The levee district is also responsible for constructing and maintaining levees and drainage systems within its district. The levee district may buy, sell or exchange property, enter into contracts and perform any acts necessary to carry out its assigned duties.
Currently the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is conducting a large scale hurricane protection project on the west bank of the Mississippi river in Jefferson, Orleans, and Plaquemines parishes. The entire project is estimated to cost approximately $300 million. The State Department of Transportation and Development is the lead nonfederal sponsor for the project.
Included in the project is $260 million for work in the area governed by the levee district. The levee district contracted in May, 1995, with a joint venture engineering firm to perform all engineering services required by the levee district’s participation in the Corps of Engineers project. Mr. Jones was first appointed as a commissioner to the levee district in 1992.
Levee district commissioners are appointed by the governor and serve at his pleasure.
[SNIP]

A commissioner of the West Jefferson Levee District proposed using his position on the board to steer levee board contracts to a private company he was attempting to create. Ronald Jones, the commissioner, acknowledged in an e-mail that he “was working to try and get the organization some work using my position at the levee board.” Mr. Jones later asserted that he was “blowing smoke” and his statements were all false.

Is this the kind of thing you're looking for? Be sure to read his explaination about the phrase "good ole white boys"
2,509 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:33 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: Arizona Carolyn

There is much criticism of Bush for not anticipating damage from a cat 4 or 5 storm. However, the Mayor and city /state officials knew that the approaching 5 storm could cause flooding of NOLA. Under that condition, the buses, without question, should have been deployed before the storm reach NOLA. Someone gambled to save the buses, and many people died unnecessarily.


2,510 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:34 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: Spktyr

Which begs the question. The hospitals had their generators on the second floor; not sure where the hotels had their generators, butif you live in a flood plain, why wouldn't you put that equipment on the upper levels instead of the basement to lower floors?


2,511 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:50 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NautiNurse; All


http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3kt.htm


2,512 posted on 09/05/2005 4:18:51 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Bahbah
I hit the mute button whenever I see the debauched one's face. It keeps the blood pressure down.

And I can NEVER stomach Chris Matthews, so Hardball is a definite no-no.

What's been driving me nuts is that I've had Fox on the whole time and STILL am hearing this nonsense that it's the President's fault.

Thank heaven's for Special Report and Brit, but Charles, dear..........you done me wrong.

(Praise the Lord that the water is finally going OUT of NO).

2,513 posted on 09/05/2005 4:19:12 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas

Kaui Hale is listed as MISSING in the Red Cross Database....I will keep looking on the others....

Mosly doesnt come back on NOLA


2,514 posted on 09/05/2005 4:19:18 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Leapfrog
the president has ample authority to employ the military in homeland defense against the threat of weapons of mass destruction in terrorist hands.

So Mother Nature (or Katrina) would have to be declared a terrorist?

2,515 posted on 09/05/2005 4:19:31 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: Peach

Brit is always good!!!

Tonight is about the 3rd or 4th time that Charles Krauthammer, who I have always been a fan of...has just come out of left field with a lefty opinion...

And his remark about Bush going back today, because he didn't think Friday was "successful" was bizarre!!!


2,516 posted on 09/05/2005 4:19:57 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: All

ABC just blasted Moore a while ago" Unqualified Etc"


2,517 posted on 09/05/2005 4:21:05 PM PDT by jhny7 (made in USA tested in japan mess with USA we'll use it again)
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To: WVNan
I was just saying that to Mr. Oh. Bless his heart, Scotty just doesn't have what it takes, IMO.

The WH press briefings would be SO MUCH FUN with Honore in charge, wouldn't they?? :)

2,518 posted on 09/05/2005 4:21:10 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Soul Seeker

I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. Lord knows there has been precious little infromation on these souls, but the underclass, they're center stage.


2,519 posted on 09/05/2005 4:21:10 PM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: Txsleuth

Bush is going to be making weekly trips down there for a while I think.


2,520 posted on 09/05/2005 4:21:24 PM PDT by oceanview
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