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Katrina Evacuees Distraught Over Pets
Guardian (UK) ^ | 9/3/05 | Mike Stobbe

Posted on 09/03/2005 9:56:20 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker

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To: GovernmentShrinker

Even in emergencies like this, there are rescue workers that let things go to their heads. With that little boy, it was probably some jerk that got of on the power he had rather than the compassion he should have had.


41 posted on 09/03/2005 10:56:41 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: MaineVoter2002

Actually, there is a section under FEMA specifically for the rescuing of pets during emergencies.


42 posted on 09/03/2005 10:57:39 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

Where is PUKA I mean PETA? in this situation


43 posted on 09/03/2005 10:58:22 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: TNdandelion

Last year in FL, practically every hotel and motel waived their no pets rule for people evacuating from the storms. Very few proplems were encountered. Everyone ewas aware of the situation and did their best handling their pets.


44 posted on 09/03/2005 10:59:17 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

PETA and HSUS don't do shelters. They try to get face time for soliciting donations and they get in the way of the people that do know what they are doing.


45 posted on 09/03/2005 11:00:13 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: small_l_libertarian

You are quite correct. There is a large DART team presence in Pinellas COunty and there are loads of volunteers from people going to rescue the animals down to epople willing to foster them until their families get situated. They will be working their butts of on this. The hardest part was gettig enough air conditioned vehicles for the volume of animals being gathered


46 posted on 09/03/2005 11:02:41 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Microchipping was the most successful method. Also, if you do get separated from your pet, make sure you have a photo of your pet with you in it. It's a great way to prove that the dog to cat is yours. Too many poepl do try to get a nice purebred animal after a disaster by claiming it is theirs.


47 posted on 09/03/2005 11:04:19 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: ChocChipCookie
It would also help if, in circumstances such as these, hotels would temporarily suspend their "no pets" policies.

Let me see. I'm a hotel owner who's going to take in hordes of folks I've just seen rioting on TV, who have a culture of entitlement, and I've got no great assurance I'm ever going to see a dime for the weeks or months I will have to put them up.

What do I need to make my pleasure complete? Their cats clawing my curtains to ribbons and sharpening claws on my furniture, their nervous little dogs pissing on the rug regularly, and their large dogs baying all night and upsetting any paying customers I might still have. Oh, that sounds just ducky.

There's a reason that most hotels and most landlords have a no-pets policy: that reasom is that most pet owners are blind to the damage done by their critters -- especially when what's being damaged is someone else's.

If people have had no food in five days, it's not time to loot the 7:11, it's time to warm up the brazier and dress out Fido.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

48 posted on 09/03/2005 11:04:51 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: RadioAstronomer
This blows big time. These people have lost everything, and now their pets as well. :-(

How sad. Some people will be fighting depression for a very long time.

49 posted on 09/03/2005 11:09:24 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Thank you for posting this. I had read it on another forum. It just tore me up. I donated to the Houston SPCA. Now this is just a rumor, but people going in to save pets are also finding people and putting them in the boats with the pets. If I find anything firm on this, I will post back.

I can't do much, but I would have happily gone into debt to fly that little boy's dog to my home and keep it safe for him until they could be reunited, paying to fly it back. He will never trust a policeman again and will be traumatized for the rest of his life. Hopefully nothing worse befell him in the shelter.

I'd rather take in a pet than a person. If my health were better, I wouldn't minded sharing my home with a couple of those mothers with babies, but if they are on drugs or have boyfriends . . .I am unable to cope with that sort of thing any more.

This is way off topic, but if more mothers nursed their children, the babies might not have died. I'm not criticizing them for not doing it. To save my baby, I would try to find someone who would nurse it like they used to have wet nurses if anybody is humane enough to do that any more. It would be taking a risk, but then I suppose it always was and we just didn't know it as I think diseases can be transmitted through breast milk. Most healthy women can easily nurse two babies.

50 posted on 09/03/2005 11:09:50 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: lndrvr1972

See my other post. PETA doesn't do shelter/rescue work. They are a mouthpiece and that's all.


51 posted on 09/03/2005 11:10:19 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

When you are old and alone, when you are sick, ignored, lonesome your pet is vital and is adored. They are a blessing from God and they become family and sometimes the best friend in the world.

It is an unneeded cruelty to people who have lost everything in the world to tell them they now have to leave that pet uncared for without food or water and abandon it. Utter cruelty by those who do not understand what pets mean to people that need them.

Look at how many people would not evacuate or go to the shelters because they could not take their pets. So, we have to have helicopters save their lives now.

They get to a shelter and finally get care and FEMA will bring in psychiatrists to help them adjust to their loss. Big deal, that pet would probably help them more than any of the psychiatric babel.

And, a few small animals in those relief centers brings peace and joy and provide a warm, friendly distraction. Which is why many nursing homes have nursing home pets roaming around.

We need to have that policy adjusted a little. People are the primary goal, but there are cases where that pet is just as important to that person than a relative. Why be so harsh?


52 posted on 09/03/2005 11:14:45 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: doc30

I'm sort of surprised the crowd didn't forcibly reverse his decision.


53 posted on 09/03/2005 11:14:55 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Aliska

I keep hoping that the huge publicity given to that little boy's case, and the huge fuss he made after the dog was taken, will somehow result in the dog being kept safe and identifiable, and returned to the boy.


54 posted on 09/03/2005 11:18:57 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Yes, there are many groups doing that. But the chances of these pets being reunited with their owners are slim.

What you do is create a central website. Put up posters, announce site on TV, radio, at the shelters established for hurricane survivors, etc. so that the word gets out. The website can be governmental or private, doesn't matter. All those organizations or individuals who are sheltering animals that survived the hurricane should then photograph and post pictures of the animals they took in on that centralized site, and post a description of the dog, cat, etc. (breed, weight, size, color) so that the owners of animals that were separated from them can go to the website, scroll through the animals' pictures and descriptions, and then use a central contact phone number and/or e-mail address on the site, to find out where their pet is, and eventually reunite with the pet.

This should be relatively simple to do, as anyone who took in a pet pr pets can post from anywhere they live in the U.S. Or, if they took in a pet and are not computer savvy, they can go to a local animal shelter or library to have them send in a digital picture and description to the website (and put the directions on how to do this on the website itself). Problem solved.


55 posted on 09/03/2005 11:35:34 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Texasforever
Also, it shows the people who stormed Nazi Europe and put its fanatical legions to the sword have been transformed, in two brief and inglorious generations, into the greatest pack of whining pansies the world has ever known.
56 posted on 09/03/2005 11:37:42 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I wouldn't leave my dogs for anything. I'd eat bark before leaving my dogs. The philosophy I have gained since owning my dogs has saved my life, slowed my pace, and is on the edge of making me semi-upper middle class.

I'd build a raft and sail out to sea before taking a bus without my dogs.


57 posted on 09/03/2005 11:38:32 PM PDT by Porterville (Liberal Babyboomers will by anything that stinks of hippy.... So crap on a stick and sell baby sell)
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To: flaglady47

P.S., in refining the website, there would be headings for dogs, cats, birds, hamsters, etc., so that the owners can go directly to the list for the type of animal(s) they own. And, if possible, the location of where they found the animal (specific or general vicinity) should be listed by those that gave shelter to the animals. But I'm sure someone would design a fine website. A group like Noah's Ark or some other large pet shelter group might want to pick up on this, create the site, get some backing maybe from the gov't, and get going on this project. I think it's a great idea, because I thought of it (hehehehe). Hope some organization or person might refine my ideas and actually do it.


58 posted on 09/03/2005 11:46:35 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: TXBubba; Slings and Arrows


59 posted on 09/04/2005 12:39:06 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I agree with the large, aggressive dogs not being allowed, but how could we just say small dogs, cats, etc. I have a 140lb Great Pyrenees, that is as gentle as they come. His name is Cody Jack (my FR SN)...I also have a 60lb chow that is very much the chicken, and is wonderful. I could never leave my "babies" behind...they are like kids to me, and I would never desert either.
60 posted on 09/04/2005 12:55:37 AM PDT by codyjacksmom (I've gone out to find myself... if I get back before I return, please keep me here!!!)
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