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AP Warned of New Orleans Disaster
NewsMax ^ | 9/3/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 09/03/2005 12:34:27 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: IronMan04

Seeing what happened before and acting on it might have saved a lot more.

I do know that leadership isn't easy but that's what leadership is.


41 posted on 09/03/2005 1:44:04 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: Polybius

about 75 buses in that pic alone. How many does your average bus hold? 48-60 I think. 75x48=3600 Thats just one group of buses. How many dead? 10,000+ ?? Amazing how everything was overlooked when orders to evacuate came in.


42 posted on 09/03/2005 1:46:49 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: Victoria; Carl/NewsMax
I don't know how Newsmax would stay in business without Free Republic to provide the base for most of their articles.

Even though the bulk of what is on NewsMax is gleaned from the various newswires, they still have a lot of stories that you simply won't see anywhere else. Even most of the AP stories they carry are ignored by the lamestream media.

43 posted on 09/03/2005 1:47:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Cougar66

I didnt even have the whole pic on the screen so its even more. Geez


44 posted on 09/03/2005 1:48:39 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: Rightly Biased
They did everything except go door to door with a gun forcing people out of their homes. If they would have parked the school buses on the corner to take people out of town very few people would have gotten on.

What would you have done if your choice was to leave your house and with 100% certainty have it looted by the gang banger thugs next door or take you chances like you had in the 15 or 20 previous evacuations?

45 posted on 09/03/2005 1:49:44 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: Cougar66

It would have been very difficult to get those people to leave their houses.


46 posted on 09/03/2005 1:52:49 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: IronMan04

Well having a prespective that isn't what your's is obviously. I would have done what ever it took to get my family out of there.

Stuff is Stuff
Souls are eternal.

We have created a handout society and it shows.


47 posted on 09/03/2005 1:54:14 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: IronMan04

The mayor did not order the evacuation on Saturday. He did on Sunday only after a call from the President.


48 posted on 09/03/2005 1:56:06 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: Rightly Biased
BTW-The New Orleans area evacuated 900,000 to a 1,000,000 people in less than 48 hours.

Can you please provide evidence to me where another American City with only two viable roads heading out was as successful.

I am willing to bet you cannot find one example.

49 posted on 09/03/2005 1:56:31 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: golfisnr1

On Saturday morning as I ate breakfast the Mayor Strongly Advised people to Evacuate.


50 posted on 09/03/2005 1:58:22 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: golfisnr1
The New Orleans Katrina evacuation will go down in history as the most successful in US history.
51 posted on 09/03/2005 2:00:15 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: IronMan04
Consider Miami Dade with Andrew.
 
I don't know why you are a liberal apologist.
 
But I do know that when people want to do something they can and will and if they do not want to do something or anything they will wait for the handout or bus-ride or helicopter ride.And blame the President when the handful  (bus's copter's) doesn't come.
 

I know  how many people moved out and I know how many are left. I have been on this for a while.  All  I'm saying is that I believe that NOLA's leadership could have done more.
 
Check out these FEMA Damage Assessments:

http://www.gismaps.fema.gov/2005pages/dr1603.shtm
 
It's worse than we could imagine...
 
One of the assessment sheets shows 287, 000 people displaced because of the levee breaks.
 
If you add up  the sheets Thats over 500,000 PEOPLE needing evacuation. not black people not yellow people not  white people but PEOPLE
Not Democrats or Republicans, not hindus baptist or catholics but PEOPLE.and their elected leadership let them down in the first place by not really emphasizing the gravity of the situation
 
I'm done

52 posted on 09/03/2005 2:11:24 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: IronMan04

What did anybody do except urge folks to leave in their cars, and do contraflow? There were three roads out of NO by the way, not two. Check a map. Now of course there are only two.


53 posted on 09/03/2005 2:18:26 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Rightly Biased

Thanks for the FEMA Maps. From these it would appear that my mom's house and other properties were not flooded. It is the best data I am the 16 LA kin at my house in Austin have seen in a week.


54 posted on 09/03/2005 2:18:59 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: IronMan04

Your welcome man

I still am not an apologist for Nagin and I wont turn.

you can defend him if you like and I am truly glad you and your family are OK.

Gotta go for now.

RB


55 posted on 09/03/2005 2:20:55 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: wagglebee

A resignation from life in a manner similar to hari-kari would be adequate but they don't have enough honor to do so.


56 posted on 09/03/2005 2:22:44 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: wagglebee

Just like 911, there are a million people who said "I warned you." Warnings are a dime a dozen.

But their warnings were obviously not persuasive enough to get anything done.


57 posted on 09/03/2005 2:25:11 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: IronMan04
"The Buses would have only complicated matters and even during a "Mandatory Evacuation" people are still Free to Stay in their homes."

The buses could have been prepositioned at the Superdome and the convention center. That would have enabled a local first response to get survivors out of the city after the storm. Instead they left the bus fleet to become inundated.

The incompetence of the local authorities and the governor was of criminal proportions. They obviously had NO plan for what everyone has known for decades would be the result if the city were hit by a Cat #3 hurricane.
58 posted on 09/03/2005 2:26:18 PM PDT by laishly
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To: Eagle Eye

No they should be made to stand trial publicly for gross dereliction.


59 posted on 09/03/2005 2:30:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for posting this. It's a pretty comprehensive accounting of what happened.


60 posted on 09/03/2005 2:31:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Death to Islamo-Fascists ...)
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