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AP Warned of New Orleans Disaster
NewsMax ^ | 9/3/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 09/03/2005 12:34:27 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: geopyg
That's not true. In their emergency plan they TOLD the people to find a ride with a friend or relative. (Note that NO has an avg. of about 14% that use mass transit - so presumably many/most of those people don't have cars.

Thank you for making one of the more rational and honest statements on this thread.

This entire summer the City not only send DVD's to citizens telling them how to evacuate but also bought commercial time to inform the people that the City did not have the resources to evacuate the people and everyone would be on their own.

The people were warned but were left with two options:

Leave their homes and have their homes looted with 100% certainty.

Ride out the storm and protect their belongings.

21 posted on 09/03/2005 1:12:09 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: blake6900

If you were the mayor what would you do?


22 posted on 09/03/2005 1:13:24 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: wagglebee
I work with a manager who thinks he's there to have all the trappings of his position but does nothing good for the company. It's all about him.

This governor and mayor remind me of him.

23 posted on 09/03/2005 1:17:12 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: IronMan04
Being from Georgia you may not understand the levees are not build or maintained on the local level, they are a responsibility of the Army Corps of Engineers.

OK, since you're an expert on these things perhaps you can why there is a New Orleans Levee Commission.

The Buses would have only complicated matters and even during a "Mandatory Evacuation" people are still Free to Stay in their homes.

This is an absurd statement. Particularly in light of the fact that Mayor of NO didn't issue a mandatory evacuation until the president urged him and the governor to do so last Sunday. Also, it took them damn near forever to even get all the lanes of traffic headed out of town. You saw the video. An eight lane free with only four in use. Something as simple as that should have been a basic response yet it was slow in coming.

24 posted on 09/03/2005 1:17:53 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: IronMan04

Actually I was being sarcastic. Telling people to "find a ride" doesn't seem like much of a plan with such a large number of people using/dependent on mass transit.

On the other hand, along with the school buses we see submerged in the water, their are lots and lots of cars that are shown submerged too. Even if half of them are junkers - it would seem that the evac orders were not heeded.


25 posted on 09/03/2005 1:18:02 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: wagglebee

26 posted on 09/03/2005 1:20:20 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: wagglebee

The total ineptness is stunning. As late as Saturday night, early Sunday morning we were discussing here on FR that Nagin was going to talk to the city attorney's to find out if they could 'order' and evacuation. They didn't know if they could or couldn't? The school busses didn't flood until Tuesday...so they could have been used to evacuate on Saturday and Sunday (prior to Katrina). And lastly, on Sunday they showed the traffic on I-10 leaving NO. The inbound lanes were completely empty...why didn't they open both sides to expedite the evacuation? It appears that poor planning skills is a requisite for local govt. positions.


27 posted on 09/03/2005 1:21:00 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I used to take the highroad, but the altitude gave me nose bleeds....)
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To: geopyg

I liked Bill O'Reilly's "moral of the story". He was talking about the "failures" at so many levels - and the moral was "If you depend on the government, you're probably going to be dissapointed".


28 posted on 09/03/2005 1:21:13 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: kcordell

I heard the Levee Commision had their own plane... life WAS good!


29 posted on 09/03/2005 1:21:50 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: IronMan04
Being from Georgia you may not understand the levees are not build or maintained on the local level, they are a responsibility of the Army Corps of Engineers.

OK, since you're an expert on these things perhaps you can why there is a New Orleans Levee Commission.

The Buses would have only complicated matters and even during a "Mandatory Evacuation" people are still Free to Stay in their homes.

This is an absurd statement. Particularly in light of the fact that Mayor of NO didn't issue a mandatory evacuation until the president urged him and the governor to do so last Sunday. They knew there was a great possibility the storm was going to hit them on Friday night. Hell, even the president and declared the area a national emergency before the mayor ordered the city evacuated. Also, it took them damn near forever to even get all the lanes of traffic headed out of town. You saw the video. An eight lane freeway with only four in use. Something as simple as that should have been a basic response yet it was slow in coming.

And you say, "the buses would have only complicated matters...". God I hope you realize how stupid that sounds.

30 posted on 09/03/2005 1:22:57 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: IronMan04
The Buses would have only complicated matters

Matters are all peachy keen now though right?

Hindsight is what it is.
Leadership is what it is.
NOLA's leaders had neither,and this article shows it.

31 posted on 09/03/2005 1:29:45 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: wagglebee

I don't know how Newsmax would stay in business without Free Republic to provide the base for most of their articles.


32 posted on 09/03/2005 1:29:47 PM PDT by Victoria
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To: blake6900
Being from New Orleans I have never heard of a "New Orleans Levee Commission" and neither has Google. However, if you find evidence that a "New Orleans Levee Commission" does exist please point me and the Google Search engine to that information.

However, if you are really interested in the New Orleans Levee system you may want to consult to following link"

http://www.mvn.usace.army.mil/pao/whoweare/index.asp

Notice how the above web address has a .mil domain name. I wonder how the mayor of New Orleans and his "New Orleans Levee Commission" was able to obtain that address?

33 posted on 09/03/2005 1:29:48 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: Rightly Biased

As Mayor what would have done?


34 posted on 09/03/2005 1:32:32 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: blake6900
The Contra Flow lanes were up and running by 4:00 Saturday afternoon. Furthermore, a State of Emergency can only be declared by the president at the request of a local official.
35 posted on 09/03/2005 1:35:12 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: wagglebee

FauX News is treating nagin like he's the Second Coming - only mentioning him positively (bitching about slow aid, meeting with Bush).

Anyone think FauX will ever ask him about the buses, or his actions during Ivan?


36 posted on 09/03/2005 1:35:40 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: blake6900
The people would not leave their homes. Do yo propose the mayor of New Orleans go door to door with a gun and force people out of their houses?

I was there and I got out with out a "Mandatory Evacuation" order.

37 posted on 09/03/2005 1:37:40 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: IronMan04
I'm not mayor,nor do I play one on TV if I did play a mayor on TV the libs would think I was mayor. That is the limit of their mentality.

What I would not have done was ignore what had happened in my city During the last two close Hurricanes.
I said on one of the live threads What is that idiot thinking sending people to the super dome? They wont have utilities in there for days and it may be longer than that.

Hindsight is what it is.
Leadership is what it is.
NOLA's leaders had neither
38 posted on 09/03/2005 1:40:33 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: wagglebee

bttt


39 posted on 09/03/2005 1:42:10 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Rightly Biased
The Superdome while turning into a cesspool saved people's lives.
40 posted on 09/03/2005 1:42:23 PM PDT by IronMan04
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