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Some Children Should Be Left Behind [a successful public school for low income minority students]
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| September 02, 2005
| Catherine Seipp
Posted on 09/03/2005 6:33:01 AM PDT by grundle
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Here's a successful public school for low income minority students. The success was not achieved by spending more money. Show this to your liberal friends and watch them deny the truth.
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posted on
09/03/2005 6:33:03 AM PDT
by
grundle
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posted on
09/03/2005 6:41:23 AM PDT
by
zook
To: grundle
Esquiths approach to field trips is rather different. His first field trip each year is to the Hollywood Bowl after each child has demonstrated his ability to participate by writing a report on every composer featured at that evenings performance, learning and playing parts of the pieces on a musical instrument, and demonstrating (during a dry-run in class, listening to a CD) the ability to sit quietly and politely for two hours listening to classical music. If they cant do all this, theyre left behind, but not unkindly. I explain that there are many things they cant do yet: they dont drive a car, date, or vote, Esquith writes in his book, which I was surprised to find as page-turning as a thriller. And they dont do these things not because theyre bad people but because they need to acquire certain skills before theyre allowed to do them. Very wise!
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posted on
09/03/2005 6:44:45 AM PDT
by
dawn53
To: summer
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posted on
09/03/2005 7:11:59 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
To: grundle
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posted on
09/03/2005 7:44:09 AM PDT
by
rockprof
To: grundle; mhking
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posted on
09/03/2005 8:40:57 AM PDT
by
cyborg
("I want to know how God created this world. I want to know His thoughts..." A.Einstein)
To: dawn53
I don't remember having to listen quietly and politely to classical music as part of the test to get my driver's license. Maybe that's only in Los Angeles County.
To: grundle
To: grundle
Very fine article. Thanks!
We don't all have the same talents, a fact which most edutomaters fail to address
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posted on
09/03/2005 10:22:07 AM PDT
by
FixitGuy
To: grundle
Children are like fragile, empty vases, they must be filled up with something of substance to keep them from crashing and shattering.
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posted on
09/03/2005 10:31:31 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
To: grundle
It sounds like the old line Catholic schools I went to, K-12. Like Rafe Esquith, they did not develop or patent traditional teaching methods, but they applied them with dedication and energy.
To: NonValueAdded
Hi NonValueAdded,
Thanks for the ping on this article. A very good read. I didn't agree with everything he said (as someone has to teach kids at the bottom rung, too), but I especially liked what he said here:
You have kid one, the gift from God, the parents say, How can I help? Then you have kid three, in serious trouble, and the parents say, If you try to help my kid, were going to kill you. Most teachers spend their careers at one end or the other they either love working with easy kids or spend all their time trying to control the incorrigible ones. My favorite kids are the kids in the middle the average kid who kind of does their work but doesnt realize how great they can be if someone spends a little time with them.
Those middle kids can get left behind as well, because many of them are on the brink -- and could go higher, if so much time wasn't spent on tedious matters. And, if teachers always really wanted to reach higher. Some don't.
For example, I happen to love Shakespeare, but not every teacher does, no matter what they claim. And you can't teach a kid what you yourself don't understand.
Thanks again for the ping. :)
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:03:32 PM PDT
by
summer
To: grundle
A very good post! Thanks, grundle. :)
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:03:57 PM PDT
by
summer
To: Old Professer
BTTT to your post #10, Old Professor. :)
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:04:26 PM PDT
by
summer
To: Cicero; Amelia; AmishDude; rwfromkansas; StopDemocratsDotCom
FYI. A very good read. :)
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:05:38 PM PDT
by
summer
To: moog
I really wanted you to see this.
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:13:38 PM PDT
by
Gabz
(USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
To: summer
I'm so happy you found this and posted - otherwise I would have missed it all together.
Open house at school was on Friday, it starts tuesday. I had very long talks with my daughter's 2nd grade teacher, the principal, and a 5th grade teacher who is the school reading specialist, about a directive that came down from the superintendent's office that ended a program for advanced readers in the school.
My daughter was in 1st grade last year, but spent part of the day in 2nd grade for reading and writing and this was a schoolwide (K-5) program the principal started 3 years ago. The idea being, the advanced kids would be working at their level and the teachers would be able to devote more time to the at level (middle) and below level. It was working wonderully, at least according to me, other parents I know with children at various different reading levels, and the teachers I know...............but apparently there was one parent not happy about it and insisted his/her child just skip kindergarten altogether, instead of doing 1st grade reading. when the teachers and principal disagreed and wouldn't do it, the parent went to the superintendent.
That parent didn't get his/her child skipped a grade, but the rest of the children being moved around for their reading level now can't. But, the way I look at it - one squeaky wheel squelched the program, 25 or so can probably get it back.........
As the 2nd grade teacher my daughter had last year told me on Friday, "No Child Left Behind" has to mean the advanced children as well.
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:30:41 PM PDT
by
Gabz
(USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
To: moog
I'm still digesting our conversation, but I wanted you to see the post I just made onthis thread, it's a bit more detail on what I am currently concerned about :)
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:32:10 PM PDT
by
Gabz
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To: Gabz
As the 2nd grade teacher my daughter had last year told me on Friday, "No Child Left Behind" has to mean the advanced children as well.
Agreed. Thanks for your fascinating post, Gabz.
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:50:58 PM PDT
by
summer
To: summer
Thank you, summer.....I have always enjoyed your posts in regard to education.
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posted on
09/04/2005 7:57:22 PM PDT
by
Gabz
(USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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