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CA: Schwarzenegger hints he eyes re-election
ap on Yahoo ^ | 8/31/05 | BETH FOUHY - ap

Posted on 08/31/2005 2:03:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: RS; calcowgirl
??? In order to buy that, I would have to abandon logic -

You would have to apply logic to abandon it. In order to apply logic correctly you aren't free to define your own sets subjective definitions in the English language.

Since 36% of the vote went for the prop, YOU are the one that are saying that Arnold considers them all "right wing crazies" - this is absurd. You have abandoned logic.

Arnold's own words define what he considers right wing crazies, and the election outcome has nothing to do with that.

Introduction of spurious data is not logical, unless your purpose is to blow smoke.

In my opinion he will hold to what he says.

He SAYS he will cut spending. He INCREASED spending faster than Davis did in the budget that was at his own discretion.

I think that he will have a better chance making the Dem legislature go along with it then his opponants.

With no substantiating data at all to support that contention.

How about this ?

Answer the request as posed.

For EVERY item on your list that refers to things that he COULD have said something about at the time, It is my opinion he has held to what he said.

Then you are a liar, a dupe, or have a talent for deliberate and dishonest misconstruction that rivals Arnold himself. Take your pick.

For EVERY item on your list that refers to things that he is attempting to have the Dem legislature go along with, I still believe he is doing better then Tom would have.

A total strawman based in pure speculation and therefore a worthless argument.

Do you actually expect me to go through your laundry list and figure out what is really meant by your misleading and/or unsourced statements ?

So far you have failed to argue effectively that Arnold didn't direct his comment of "right wing crazies" to supporters of Prop 54. That's just ONE and you've struck out completely.

Odds are they did/do. My question was regarding just HOW they combine that data, as I illustrated in post 150 where a small contribution from you NOW to a group supporting one of the Props could be classified by them on their charts as a "special interest" donation to Arnold.

The chart is composed directly from the table. The table is traceable to the SOS office per the author of the graph.

Done, as I said I would.

Here you accuse me of not having done my homework, when you have yet to do ANY. All you have proven is to be a persistent heckler without substance.

161 posted on 09/06/2005 3:01:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
"So far you have failed to argue effectively that Arnold didn't direct his comment of "right wing crazies" to supporters of Prop 54."

Sorry, but your post was that he called supporters of Prop 54 "right wing crazies".

You have shown no proof of that, and you had to go through a tortured construct to defend your erroneous statement, and now have appeared to change it to "direct his comment" - I reject it. My friend, it is up to you to provide proof of your statement or withdraw it.
162 posted on 09/06/2005 3:23:20 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS
You have shown no proof of that, and you had to go through a tortured construct to defend your erroneous statement, and now have appeared to change it to "direct his comment" - I reject it. My friend, it is up to you to provide proof of your statement or withdraw it.

I showed sufficient proof and you haven't seen fit to even deconstruct it. A hand wave won't suffice.

163 posted on 09/06/2005 3:28:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thanks for taking the time to expose the twisting and turning.


164 posted on 09/06/2005 5:00:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Carry_Okie

"I showed sufficient proof and you haven't seen fit to even deconstruct it."

no need to, your premise is based on your contention that Arnold thinks everyone who would vote for prop 54 is a right wing crazie, unsupported by Arnold's statement.

Your contention fails.


165 posted on 09/06/2005 5:30:15 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS; calcowgirl; SierraWasp
no need to, your premise is based on your contention that Arnold thinks everyone who would vote for prop 54 is a right wing crazie, unsupported by Arnold's statement.

Try the spell checker. The singular for crazies is "crazy." Another handwave built around something I didn't say. I never wrote what Arnold thinks, but what his words plainly mean.

If I put that statement before 1,000 people, I'd hazard a very different answer than yours. It must be those reading reading skills of yours again, or rather, the lack of them. You can have this thread now, because I've got enough of your prevarication on it for future reference to be most useful.

Thank you very much.

166 posted on 09/06/2005 6:13:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

"If I put that statement before 1,000 people, I'd hazard a very different answer than yours."


I can understand that if when you hear the term "right wing crazies" used you think it refers " all conservatices" you might feel that way, but it dosen't.

When you do that 1000 person poll, please ask the question also " Do you think all conservatives are right wing crazies. ?"
If they say no - you have your answer.


167 posted on 09/06/2005 6:27:55 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS; Carry_Okie

School's out! You've been dismissed!


168 posted on 09/06/2005 9:17:39 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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