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Impeach Bush! (Joseph Farah On Upholding American Sovereignty Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/31/05 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/30/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Sexy Texan
I don't think this angle about the wartine president has much pull because the DUmmies can just say we all wanted Clinton impeached during Bosnia. We don't want to get labeled as flip-floppers do we?

I could care less what DUmmies think. Welcome to FR. You seem to have the lingo down pat right off the bat.

I wonder why that is...


81 posted on 08/30/2005 11:57:35 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: patrioto

I didn't say that Bush was a wimp, you must be confusing me with someone else


82 posted on 08/30/2005 11:57:43 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: goldstategop

Last time Pat Buchanan ran for President, he chose for
his running mate a marxist.
I didn't know he is still doing their work.


83 posted on 08/30/2005 11:58:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (More Died At Chappaquiddic than Guantanamo)
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To: goldstategop

The sky is falling!


84 posted on 08/31/2005 12:02:09 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Racehorse
My response is to send a message by voting against incumbents of both political parties in local and state elections.

Local, and state elected officials have nothing to do with the Federal Government refusing to address the Border Problems. While I agree that many local and state incumbants need to be fired, a blanket firing of all incumbants isn't going to happen.

Things on the Border are rapidly getting more intense, things are about to boil over, something has to be done soon.

The solution is to get the attention of those in charge. Those in charge have continued to ignore the problem, knowing their position is very unpopular, I don't believe anything short of a bill if impeachment will get their attention.

85 posted on 08/31/2005 12:04:29 AM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Ekoa

"I think that congress needs to pass a law so the blame gets spread around by everyone. (I notice Clinton didn't do it during his 8)"

Neither party is willing to risk offending hispanic voters, or employers.

And both parties are willing to toy with voters, as if they expect us to forever be placated by hollow words.

Reagan's 1986 amnesty was a carefully crafted scam. It should be called the "great fraudulent Document Amnesty."

Illegal immigrants entered the citizenship process, with false documents, and employers merely have to stuff their employee files with fraudulent documents.

Government agencies likewise fill their folders with false documents.

Zero interior enforcement. Zero employer penalties.

I have never understood the opposition to a national identification system. But it would matter not a twit, under the present level of enforcement.

Fencing the borders will do very little, compared to enforcing proof of legal right to be in the country.


87 posted on 08/31/2005 12:06:52 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Sexy Texan
As an honorable person I will not, however, be quick to judgment.

Whatever.


88 posted on 08/31/2005 12:13:56 AM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: Grut
Congress? Act? Congress isn't for doing things....

Actually, they seem to be doing (legislating), or trying to do, much more than I thought . . . though not enough.

Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Homeland Security subcommittee on management and oversight, said Congress must approve funding for additional Border Patrol agents.

“Americans would be outraged if they really knew how porous that border is down there and how grossly understaffed the Border Patrol and Customs people are,” Rogers told reporters during a conference call.

[. . .]

The Homeland Security subcommittee has oversight of federal spending for border-related programs, and Rogers said more is needed to improve conditions for federal law enforcement to effectively fight an onslaught of undocumented immigrants.

An increase in funding for new Border Patrol agents is included in the $30.8 billion spending bill for the Department of Homeland Security. House and Senate lawmakers are trying to resolve differences in the bill in a conference committee.

Congress has authorized spending for an additional 10,000 new Border Patrol agents over the next five years. Rogers urged conferees to approve as least 1,000 of those positions in the Homeland Security bill for fiscal year 2006, which begins Oct. 1.

In addition, Rogers said the Department of Homeland Security must work quickly to implement the $2.5 billion program that establishes infrared cameras along the border to track undocumented crossers and smugglers.

22 August 2005


89 posted on 08/31/2005 12:14:21 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: c-b 1
Local, and state elected officials have nothing to do with the Federal Government refusing to address the Border Problems. While I agree that many local and state incumbants need to be fired, a blanket firing of all incumbants isn't going to happen.

I don't want to vote out Congressional or Senate Republicans, nor do I want a Democratic President.

The solution is to get the attention of those in charge.

I absolutely agree!

My little one vote at the local and state level, if joined by others, just might send the right message to and get the attention of their brothers and sisters in the federal government.

90 posted on 08/31/2005 12:19:50 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: goldstategop

PING


91 posted on 08/31/2005 12:21:30 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: rdb3
Calling for the impeachment of a wartime president.

Impeachment of a president is a serious matter. Does he deserve it?

2-4:

     Sect. 4.  The President, Vice President and all civil 
Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on 
impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other 
high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

"Bribery" is bribery and corruption. Black defines "corruption" thusly:

¦  Corruption.
¦
¦   An act done with an intent to give some advantage inconsistent
¦  with official duty and the rights of others.  The act of an
¦  official or fiduciary person who unlawfully and wrongfully uses hi
¦  station or character to procure some benefit for himself or for
¦  another person, contrary to duty and the rights of others.  See
¦  Bribe;  Extortion.

Wartime? I see a lot of military operatons under UN sanction. I've looked carefully and I don't find any legislation citing 1-8-11 as authority.

92 posted on 08/31/2005 12:26:04 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: goldstategop
Sealing the Mexican border wouldn't keep terrorists out.

Anyone with serious resources can get in any number of ways.

It would be a huge waste of resources trying to seal the border if your goal is to keep out terrorists because it is doomed to failure.

BTW, did you want to impeach Reagan when he started the amnesty program that caused many of the problems with illegals that we have today?
93 posted on 08/31/2005 12:26:42 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Racehorse

Our borders are vast.

It would take far more than "doubling the size of the Border Patrol" to make the slightest dent in the problem. If your goal is to stop terrorists from getting in, you will fail.


94 posted on 08/31/2005 12:29:07 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Racehorse
You are right- something does not add up. You are claiming that 534 additions in AZ are NEW HIRES? I did not see that in your reference- just that 534 were being added in AZ, I did not see where they were being pulled from.Check this out: "Border Patrol hiring ripped By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES Senate Democrats yesterday challenged President Bush's decision to hire 210 new Border Patrol agents for next fiscal year, saying he reneged on a promise to add 2,000 agents when he signed the intelligence overhaul bill in December. Sen. Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia Democrat and ranking member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said the Bush proposal, submitted as part of the Homeland Security Department's $41.1 billion budget, "ignores the stark reality of the resources needed to secure the homeland." At a meeting of the Appropriations homeland security subcommittee, Mr. Byrd said the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act signed Dec. 6 by Mr. Bush authorized the hiring of 2,000 new agents in each of the next five years, and in a letter that day to Congress, the president called the bill "an important step in strengthening our immigration laws by ... increasing the number of Border Patrol agents." Democrats have made the Border Patrol funding an issue in the past month, arguing that it shows that the president's priorities are misplaced — both on border security and on the broader issue of immigration reform. Last month, House Democrats tried to block a Republican-backed bill to crack down on illegal immigrants' use of driver's licenses and limit asylum claims, arguing that Mr. Bush should first fund the promised number of Border Patrol agents as a way of proving that he is serious about homeland security. "( This is an excerpt from Mar 3, 2005, Washington Times)

And, yes, something else doesn't add up. I was incorrect- the congress authorized 2000 per year, Bush hired 210.

95 posted on 08/31/2005 12:34:43 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: rdb3; goldstategop
Is there anything keeping scores of Mohamed Atta's from crossing our northern or southern borders today or tomorrow?
If another act of terrorism is committed on our shores during 43's tenure, he'll be ranked below that president who caught pneumonia during his inauguration and died a month later.

If a bill of impeachment will get Bush to get off the pot then it will be worth it.
Should the Democrats capitalize on illegal immigration and ride it as an issue into the White House, a lot of Republican automatons are going to be mighty sick.

96 posted on 08/31/2005 12:37:09 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Racehorse

Sorry, did not provide url:http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050303-123638-7500r.htm


97 posted on 08/31/2005 12:37:47 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: goldstategop

Right on!


98 posted on 08/31/2005 12:42:52 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: rdb3
Calling for the impeachment of a wartime president. Unbelievable.
 
 
refusing to control the borders, while giving lip service to national security and valid terrorist threats from the southern border. unbelievable.
if W was a democrat the faithful would have been screaming for his head long ago.
99 posted on 08/31/2005 12:46:55 AM PDT by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: zarf

he is nuts


100 posted on 08/31/2005 12:50:35 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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