Posted on 08/30/2005 6:45:01 PM PDT by MikeJ
It would take a decade to have had a better levee, the biggest problem is coastal erosion.
***It is America's Pompeii.***
Atlantis.
Port Royal, Jammaca.
New Orleans.
Then there was Johnstown, PA.
and Galveston, TX. (Now THAT was a hurricane!)
Let it fill and call it a "Protected wetland".
Reporter on MSNBC just said the Levee that failed had just been replaced recently. And it was designed to handle a hurricane like Katrina. Guess the mayor is either ignorant of this or just trying to politize the event.
I think you completely misunderstood the thrust of my post. I was responding to bayourant who said.
well you got to try something I am really surprised that US military units just not Guard units have not been moblized on a grand scale here
My point was we need not go overboard and the civil authorities along with the NG can handle this situation.
I am well aware that the NG is awaiting orders along with the Navy sending 3? Ships to provide some shelter food and H2O. And the CG is conducting SR operations.
At this point the only thing that can be done is possibly providing law and order. The only way the Feds can do this (short of the President taking over) is for the local authorities to request this action. The La NG can provide this function only under the direction of the Governor. I am not aware that the Governor has made this request for either.
In fact there is a convoy of 50? Trucks full of relief supplies out of Dallas once again awaiting destination instructions. (Fuzzy as to where I read/heard this)
In addition this thread is about the failure to plug the breech in the levee which no amount of manpower can resolve. The flow of H2O in the two block long breech needs to be reduced before any remedial action would be effective.
Never gonna work.
The force of H2O is utterly amazing the are probly BILLIONS of gallons of it flowing out of that breached levee and that box would be like a soda can washed downstream in seconds.
New Orleans is becoming part of Lake Ponchartrain. It will likely be impossible to rebuild and unwise since another mega-storm can do it all over again
The thing I can't understand is how, with many years to predict the possibility of this disaster, there was only one narrow levee protecting the city from being totally inundated.
I am not sure of the water levels and at what point it will level.
But that was a 200 yard gap in the levee, that would take a friengt train
I apologize. I read one too many "it's their fault for living there" posts yesterday, so I guess I was too quick on the draw.
The corruption in Louisiana makes Chicago look like a playground.
Actually, that's a common theme in NC about people living at the beaches. You live there; you accept the risk.
In the case of New Orleans, the people trusted the government to protect them.
Who is responsible for the levees?
Even with 1,000 trucks that would take about a decade
Get the people out of NO now. That should be the one and only goal at this time. Get them out.
In the Galveston storm the local Weather Service head refused to fly the hurricane flag (not wanting to damage future economic growth prospects). A third of the city died; approximately 7000 souls. In the case of Katrina 99.9% of the citizenry knew a deadly storm was bearing down upon them. As the nation helps in the recovery we must acknowledge the role of individual responsibility. Also to be examined are the unintended consequences of government policy that subsidizes residential development in areas of clear and present danger.
No apologies solicited, neither wanted nor needed. I did not take offence only wanted to clarify my post. Thanks anyway.
I read one too many "it's their fault for living there" posts yesterday,
I imagine my joke didn’t help, and quite possibly in bad taste at this time.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/31/D8CAVTG89.html
Mayor: Katrina May Have Killed Thousands
Aug 31 3:03 PM US/Eastern
Around midday, officials with the state and the Army Corps of Engineers said the water levels between the city and Lake Pontchartrain had equalized, and water had stopped rising in New Orleans, and even appeared to be falling, at least in some places. But the danger was far from over.
The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 20,000-pound sandbags Wednesday into the 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall. But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.
Officials said they were also looking at a more audacious plan: finding a barge to plug the 500-foot hole.
"The challenge is an engineering nightmare," the governor said on ABC's "Good Morning America."
GoGov.com had this up quite a while ago with links to stories about it.
Probably knows nothing about it.
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