The Invasion Of The Chinese Cyberspies (into "secure" military computers)

Time Magazine ^ | Aug. 28, 2005 | NATHAN THORNBURGH

[MikefromOhio]

haha!!

I am back from the Golf Course :)

[MikefromOhio]

dunno.

Probably some.

Some of them could have been using friggin XBoxes for all we know.

This isn't a new thing either. The Chinese have been hitting our networks in a concerted effort for nearly 10 years now....

[Bush2000]

Who cares. The number of Windows servers being compromised pales next to the number of Linux servers being broken into. Go over to zone-h.org and view statistics for web server defacements. Linux, by far, is the reigning champion of intrusion.

[megimoo]

China has long felt that they are senior, yes that is the word/attitude they would use, In world power !
They were able to steal our latest war head designs during Clinton’s watch and now are getting very aggressive towards America . Their military have made war like statements
and they appear to be willing to accept massive loses in an nuclear exchange with us.
They realize that their large army is next to useless in a war without occupation and
if china wants a war with America as they no doubt feel is inevitable they will attempt to go nuclear very early !
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[Bush2000]

They were able to steal our latest war head designs during Clinton’s watch and now are getting very aggressive towards America .

Steal, nothing. Bill Richardson's lax security at the DOE basically handed over this technology to the ChiComs. And what was Richardson's reward? The people of NM made him governor! Unfreakingbelievable!

[adam_az]

"Who cares. The number of Windows servers being compromised pales next to the number of Linux servers being broken into. Go over to zone-h.org and view statistics for web server defacements. Linux, by far, is the reigning champion of intrusion."

It's been pointed out to you before that this is a misinterpretation of those numbers.

Defacements of a web server which is vhosting 100 web sites is counted as 100 defacements.

The statistic is meaningless.

[Bush2000]

Defacements of a web server which is vhosting 100 web sites is counted as 100 defacements.

I'm not talking about defacements on the same web server, dude, and you know it. Linux is by far the most hacked server on the Web.

[evolved_rage]

I think most gubmint contactors, especially defense contractors, have outsourced their IT to some "meatshop" of a provider who only employs the cheapest, hense least-skilled employees, with very high turnover.

[adam_az]

"I'm not talking about defacements on the same web server, dude, and you know it. Linux is by far the most hacked server on the Web."

LOL

You aren't - the website you quoted is.

Any operating system can be hacked. It all depends on what's running on it, the network and application architecture, the policies surrounding it.

The most common hacks these days are at the application level - not the OS level. SQL injection attacks are not platform dependent, neither are client side scripting attacks.

[thegreatbeast]

Tom Clancy had a crazy Japanese guy fly a commercial airline into the Capitol during a State of the Union Address a long, long time ago. And on 911, everyone was saying, "Who could think of such a thing?"

Thank you Sh*thead, NATHAN THORNBURGH, for letting the whole world know about Guangdong. I'm sure the Chicoms will leave them there to facillitate our counterespionage.

Bill Richardson? Richardson was the tough guy brought in to straighten things out after the O'Leary cow allowed aqny and all total access to DOE materials.!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks, FairO', good to know.

[RandyRep]

Yep, and Tom Clancy is the guy who had terrorists coming across the border in NM and shooting up shopping malls in 4 places. In another book, he had terrorists pumping Ebola into air systems at convention halls. Very creative fellow!

I read "The Bear and the Dragon" just as the Iraq War started - the weapons Clancy described were the ones we used in the war.

I think Clancy is about 3 years ahed of history...of course, his alternate history created through his Ryan series of books is a bit far fetched now, but it sure was creative and interesting to think about.

Dittoes on your thoughts about Richardson, OLeary and all. You should add Ron Brown to the list.

[benjaminjjones]

It's worth clicking through all five pages of the story

Dittos.

Poor guy, you'd think the fibs would hire him, sounds like he's really good.

I do kind of wonder why he didn't ask them to hire at the beginning or CYA himself somehow.

I mean, maybe he was being patriotic or just enjoying the chase, but he was doing good work for free.

I hope we have guys doing similar things to them. Well, maybe we do, NSA snoops on the whole world after all.

[BayouCoyote]

BTTT!

[megimoo]

They were able to steal our latest war head designs during Clinton’s watch and now are getting very aggressive towards America .

Steal, nothing. Bill Richardson's lax security at the DOE basically handed over this technology to the ChiComs. And what was Richardson's reward? The people of made him governor! Unfreakingbelievable!

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The warhead designs were not on a netted computer but an internal mainframe data base only .
The labs employee a Chinese designer who copied them to a personal computer (laptop) and was working from that data base !Coping them from the mainframe is a violation of security and
he just suspended from the lab but was not fired.
The laptop are not allowed to be removed from the site and was lost due to security lack !They knew he was working from a laptop but they couldn't find it for several weeks !
The laptop was finally located minus its disk in an storage room and from there to the China via Clinton’s lax policy !
By the way UCLA runs/manages the the labs and the engineer
who took the designs was going to school there !
Probably an exchange student ? He has returned to China !

[dljordan]

"Anyone who hasn't read "The Art Of Deception" by Kevin Mitnick might want to. "

I heard him on the Art Bell show one night. The guy is super sharp and has a lot of eye-opening information.

[megimoo]

IF you have a secret and want to keep it
NEVER PUT IT ON A COMPUTER !!
by the way Read Clancy's "The Teeth of the tiger"

[megimoo]

Thursday, November 29, 2001
REMEMBER LOS ALAMOS
Lab security chief too trusting of Lees?
Memos reveal missteps by former counterintelligence head

By Paul Sperry
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
“(Vrooman has been quoted or cited in no less than 20 Post articles since Aug. 17, 1999, nearly all of them written by either Vernon Loeb or Walter Pincus, or both. National security writer Pincus' wife, Ann Terry Pincus, worked in State Department intelligence and research as a Clinton appointee. A staunch Democrat from a prominent Little Rock family, she has ties to the Rose Law Firm.)

The 64-year-old Vrooman, who was in charge of catching spies at Los Alamos, says he never thought Lee, who had worked on the W-88 computer code, engaged in espionage – even when he learned that Lee lied to him about his Chinese contacts.

For instance, Lee failed to report to him, as required, that he met with China's top bomb designer, Hu Side, during a 1988 trip to Beijing.

And according to internal memos, Vrooman let Lee continue working in the lab's top-secret X Division, even after the FBI's Albuquerque, N.M., field office advised Vrooman to remove Lee in October 1997. That year, Lee downloaded additional restricted data onto computer tapes. Several of the classified tapes he stole from the lab last decade are still missing.”

[megimoo]

The application for Lee Wen Ho’s job doesn’t mention
any security clearances required to develop nuclear war heads for America .
It sure looks like a great job for a Chinese spy !
The W 88 design mentioned is the 100 megaton warhead used in the Peacekeeper
multiple independent reentry vehicles (also called )mirve’s,
The Peacekeeper is 10 /100 megaton warheads in one container, each to a different target .

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