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You will never get rid of us, boast extremists
dailymail.co.uk ^ | JAMES SLACK and TOM KELLY

Posted on 08/25/2005 4:40:59 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry

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To: Leapfrog
But legal experts said that, under human rights laws, he could not send anybody back to countries where they could face torture or death.

Legal experts = mindless anarchists and activists.

Sorry, kiddies; a sovereign state can choose to do whatever it feels necessary for the continued safety of its citizens.

As you are about to find out!

21 posted on 08/25/2005 5:08:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Leapfrog

Are the references to 'human rights law' and 'international law' binding? I realize they would be to certain 'justices' on our SC.


22 posted on 08/25/2005 5:08:59 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"Does "semi" mean something different in British parlance?" Semi is short for semi-detched house, meaning it is attached on one side to another (usually identical house) Like these...
23 posted on 08/25/2005 5:09:05 AM PDT by Budgie
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To: goldstategop
The legal impediments should be removed. Supporters of terrorists and would be terrorists should not be allowed to take advantage of the U.K's freedoms in order to destroy British society.

The concept is neither new nor complicated. The Turks, for instance see it quite clearly. The unruly can be dealt with in only one way:

"Everybody must know that the Turkish armed forces will not tolerate the use of the opportunities of democracy by the enemies of the system as a means to dynamite the basic principles of our state...”
retiring Chief of Staff General Huseyin Kivrikoglu, Turkey

It's not rocket science.
Really.

24 posted on 08/25/2005 5:15:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961

"a sovereign state can choose to do whatever it feels necessary"

(Formerly)Great Britain is not a sovereign state. As the article points out, anything they do is appealable to the International Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, and that court has the power to overturn British actions.


25 posted on 08/25/2005 5:16:53 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: Ronin

How about drop off OVER Cairo?


26 posted on 08/25/2005 5:18:01 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Leapfrog

F International law. Sovereign nations have a right and a duty to its citizens to protect them from criminals. I wish sometimes that the old concept of Outlaw could be revised. Simply put being declared an outlaw meant not only were you a criminal but that you were also placed outside the law's protection. You became fair game. Goodbye trial by jury, goodbye protective custody, goodbye fear of vigilantes.
Yes it is harsh but these skanks have no respect for law until they can hide behind its coat tails. Vermin got no rights. Also moderate Muslims should be the loudest in supporting deportation for terrorists. As for claims of innocence. Great, prove it and we might let you back in.


27 posted on 08/25/2005 5:18:39 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Leapfrog
'I am not worried about expulsion. My legal team think it is impossible.'

Then try, convict, and execute him for sedition and treason.

28 posted on 08/25/2005 5:19:03 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: mathluv

Binding, in the sense of a citizen being punished if he breaks them?

It depends on whether the Brits made this human rights law they're talking about, the way our Congress makes laws, or it's just another lefty front.

Activists like to use the word "law" to describe activitites or opinions that are nothing of the sort to make them sound inviolable and weighty.

Similarly, there's no such thing as "international law". They may be strongly held convictions, or widely accepted custom, but not law.


29 posted on 08/25/2005 5:19:04 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: Leapfrog
There is a reason that the words Treason and Sedition exist.

They are not arms against mythical creatures!

30 posted on 08/25/2005 5:19:47 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961

44 seconds - our thoughts ran alike...;-)


31 posted on 08/25/2005 5:21:02 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
You can get a lot of semi for £600,000.


32 posted on 08/25/2005 5:22:31 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Why are we "freepers"? Shouldn't we be "freereps"? Are we dyslexic?)
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To: RAY

You are correct, They use a county's own laws against them.
Then they laugh about it and how foolish that country is. These people who come to a country to avoid being killed in their own country.
You cant send a person back who may be killed in their own country,Bullship. If their own country wants them dead you have to wonder why.
They urge violence and a country has to stand by and watch it happen. Over the years lawyers have gotten away with interpreting the law their own way, The problem has been compounded by liberal judges , the two working in concert have destroyed Justice, and its time it was stopped. Hard.


33 posted on 08/25/2005 5:23:38 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: theDentist
Inteligence officers who drag them out to a truck, whisk them to the airport (where other trucks join them, strap them on a plane and jet them off to Jordan or Egypt or Sudan where they are forced out of the plane (without passports) and the plane takes off immediately. Then they can call their lawyers! (My emphasis)

Save them a phone call and throw the lawyers out with them!

34 posted on 08/25/2005 5:24:01 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Leapfrog

Haven't we heard somewhere else where the "lawyers" prevented something else. (Able Danger)


35 posted on 08/25/2005 5:24:12 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Budgie
Thank you for that clear explanation!
Wish those Limeys would learn proper English, LOL.

I hope MI6 inhabits the other half!

36 posted on 08/25/2005 5:24:47 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Leapfrog

I don't think our own country would have much success either. None of our judges seem to be on the same sheet of music about any of our laws.

The lawyers, ACLU and the Judges would have an appeal or other decision thwarting the government position before the ink was dry on the deportation order.


37 posted on 08/25/2005 5:28:06 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Gefreiter
I ended up with two impressions. The 'human rights' law may be British. I saw the reference to the Magna Carta when I read it ALL the way - I have a tendency to skim.

I agree about the 'international law'. It is like the 'international court' some of the lefties are trying to make important. Of course, you can tell how important it is to them by who they want brought before it. It is strictly alon ideological lines - and the right would lose every time.

38 posted on 08/25/2005 5:28:13 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: Stirner
(Formerly)Great Britain is not a sovereign state. As the article points out, anything they do is appealable to the International Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, and that court has the power to overturn British actions.

How many Divisions does the International Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg have?

Sovereign States, just as individuals, cannot "sign away" fundamental rights.
None is as fundamental as its own continued existance.

39 posted on 08/25/2005 5:32:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Leapfrog
My legal team think it is impossible.

Inside the Criminal Mind.

40 posted on 08/25/2005 5:36:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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