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The Era of Super-Sized Government
Cato Institute ^
| June 2, 2005
| Stephen Slivinski
Posted on 08/24/2005 11:06:51 AM PDT by rob777
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To: rob777
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posted on
08/24/2005 11:56:25 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(absolute reality)
To: Undertow
Every president since Hoover has inflated the government. 9/11 gave Bush a golden opportunity to rein in spending. If he wanted more "homeland security" monies, he could have asked for cuts in worthless domestic program such as Housing and energy assistance programs that do nothing but make citizens more irresponsible.
But no....massive pork-barrel farm bill? Check. New Medicare entitlement? Check. Massive energy pork barrel bill? Check. Meanwhile, SS and tax reform are dead in the water.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
And yet I would wager a good portion of those on this thread have consistently continued to vote Republican for some inane reason. Don't complain about your politicians, you have yourselves to blame
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posted on
08/24/2005 11:59:25 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: ARealMothersSonForever
Oh, goody. Another basher thread. So, which aspects of the article are wrong?
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:00:42 PM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: rob777
You said,
"They did a MUCH better job reigning in federal spending, even as a minority..."
I'm not aware of any budget filibusters that occurred when the Dems were the majority party. If you know of any, please enlighten me...
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:00:44 PM PDT
by
pfony1
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Massive transportation bill? Check.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:02:12 PM PDT
by
Undertow
("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
To: rob777
There is hope in this regard. The Republicans need to nominate Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina in 2008 to be President. He is the genuine heir of the Reagan Revolution.
I did not sign up for conservatism for increases in the size of government - I loved Margaret Thatcher in part because she sold off parts of goverment in wholesale lots through privatisation. That job is not done yet. I am confused and disheartened by President Bush expanding Medicare, for example.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:03:23 PM PDT
by
MadIvan
(You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
To: Undertow
The "good old days" haven't been around since Calvin Coolidge.
Every president since Hoover has inflated the government.
It was "the good old days" in the sense that the GOP was serious about curbing federal spending. Unfortunately, that did not last very long. Clinton used the Oklahoma City bombing as an excuse to lump all limited government activists into the same category as domestic extremists such as Timmothy McVeigh. It did not take long for a number of political figures to distance themselves from the limited government cause. In the 2000 campaign the planks in the GOP Platform that called for eliminating the Dept. of Ed., etc., were eliminated and an expansion of the budget was called for under the guise of "Compassionate Conservatism". This was led by the Bush campaign, which was eager to distance itself from the "Contract With America" GOP "extremists".
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:06:59 PM PDT
by
rob777
To: rob777
Look, I am not a Bushbot. I do believe that errors in strategy and policy must be pointed out. I also believe in sharing and analyzing potential solutions. This is difficult to accomplish when we live in a time of hyperspeed delivered information and opinion. Making it very difficult to discern useful information from (sometimes) useless opinion.
Holding up errors for others to see and comment on is not bashing in my book. Repeatedly carping on specific issues without offering solutions is bashing.
To: pfony1
I'm not aware of any budget filibusters that occurred when the Dems were the majority party. If you know of any, please enlighten me...
I am talking about the "Contract With America" GOP. You were the one who who insinuated that I was a DU troll because I see their short time as "The good old days" for the GOP even though the GOP was a minority at the time. Actually. they gained a majority in the House and Senate during the 1994 elections, they just did not control the Whitehouse. Still, even without controlling the WH, they got far more accomplished than the current GOP.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:13:00 PM PDT
by
rob777
To: billbears
They'll vote for same losers in 2006 and again in 2008, otherwise the Democratic bogeyman is going to get us.
To: MadIvan
There is hope in this regard. The Republicans need to nominate Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina in 2008 to be President. He is the genuine heir of the Reagan Revolution.
He is a good choice, as is Mike Pence. We need to start a movement within the GOP away from big government conservatism and back toward the ideals that helped put the GOP class of 1994 in power. In doing so, we can not be shy about criticizing the direction the GOP is currently heading.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:21:38 PM PDT
by
rob777
To: ARealMothersSonForever
Repeatedly carping on specific issues without offering solutions is bashing.There is a solution. Quit voting Republican or Democrat
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:23:25 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: rob777
Holding up errors for others to see and comment on is not bashing in my book. Repeatedly carping on specific issues without offering solutions is bashing.
I understand, but the size and role of government is not just a specific issue. It is the defining principle of what once was conservatism. In addition, there is more going on here than mere errors on a few specific issues. What we have is a trend leading us away from the fundamental principles that define us. We had Clinton on the ropes in 1995; we let him get away and have been back peddling ever since. He intimidated a lot of GOP political types into backing off from their limited government agenda when he linked that agenda with the extremists responsible for the Oklahoma City Bombing. I want to see the current GOP pick up where the "Contract With America" GOP left off. The budget problems we see today are merely a symptom of this trend.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:33:55 PM PDT
by
rob777
To: ARealMothersSonForever
The solutions? CUT THE F*CKING PROGRAMS AND STOP SPENDING LIKE A BUNCH OF LIBERALS!!! It says it right in the article which ones and how much. To it I'd add anything not directly covered under the US Constitution. This includes the BATFE Department of the Treasury. It has no right to exist period.
Most of these idiot government bureaucracies are a solution looking for a problem. Get rid of them. If it doesn't pass a Constitutional "sniff test", axe it.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:37:40 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
To: rob777
I apologize.
I was a great fan of the "Contract with America" as well. And I am very sorry that the "term limits" part of that contract was (surprise! surprise!) forgotten. I think that if we had fewer incumbents trying to (buy vote$ to) keep their seats, we MIGHT have a more fiscally responsible government now. But "power corrupts..."
So I guess we need a watch-dog group to keep track of our Republican "big spenders", so we confront them with their wastrel ways during the primaries.
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:44:19 PM PDT
by
pfony1
To: Pessimist
Who would you rather have had for President? Kerry? Gore? Puh-leeze.
To: pfony1
I apologize.
No problem.
I was a great fan of the "Contract with America" as well. And I am very sorry that the "term limits" part of that contract was (surprise! surprise!) forgotten. I think that if we had fewer incumbents trying to (buy vote$ to) keep their seats, we MIGHT have a more fiscally responsible government now. But "power corrupts..."
It certainly does.
So I guess we need a watch-dog group to keep track of our Republican "big spenders", so we confront them with their wastrel ways during the primaries.
Perhaps we at FR could fill this role. To do so, we need to distinguish between bashing and constructive criticism. I am not all that fond of personal attacks on President Bush, but I am also painfully aware that he led the effort to water down the GOP Platform in 2000 and retreat from a commitment to smaller government. It was well known during the 2000 GOP primary that the limited government conservatives played the role of his "Sister Solja".
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posted on
08/24/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT
by
rob777
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You said,
"Ah yes...any valid criticism of Bush for not reining in gov't spending, the obligatory reference to DU is made by the 'bots."
As you may know, GWB does not write spending bills. His power is limited to signing them or vetoing them. Given that GWB has ambitious Judicial and International agendas and narrow Republican majorities (weakened by an excess of RINOs), do you really think it would have been WISE for GWB to "veto" every bill that was not EXACTLY what he wanted?
IMHO, GWB has prioritized his tasks properly:
(1) Win the War in Iraq
(2) Restore America's economic prosperity, in spite of:
(a) the dot-com bust
(b) 9/11
(c) business scandals, like Enron and WorldCom
(3) Replace activist judges with constitutional judges
(4) Upgrade the military
(5) Spread democracy to disarm potential enemies of the US
(6) Make the UN less of a joke
(7) Co-opt the militarism of China and Russia
---
(98) Abolish the Department of Education
(99) Abolish the Energy Department
And I think he is succeeding at those first few critical tasks.
IMHO, GWB's success will be measured by what he DOES accomplish while in office; not by what he WOULD have accomplished if only he had not wasted his political capital advocating "worthy causes" that were ultimately defeated because those pesky RINOs would not support him at "crunch-time".
If that makes me a "'bot", so be it...
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posted on
08/24/2005 1:20:59 PM PDT
by
pfony1
((a))
To: pfony1
(2) Restore America's economic prosperity, in spite of:
(a) the dot-com bust
(b) 9/11
(c) business scandals, like Enron and WorldCom (d) Out of control government spending
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