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New federal funds revive Maglev project
Las Vegas Business Press ^ | Monday, August 22, 2005 | TONY ILLIA

Posted on 08/22/2005 11:03:12 AM PDT by Willie Green

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Magnetic levitation (Maglev) is an advanced technology in which magnetic forces lift, propel, and guide a vehicle over a guideway. Utilizing state-of-the-art electric power and control systems, this configuration eliminates contact between vehicle and guideway and permits cruising speeds of up to 300 mph, or almost two times the speed of conventional high-speed rail service. Because of its high speed, Maglev offers competitive trip-time savings to auto and aviation modes in the 40- to 600-mile travel markets–an ideal travel option for the 21st century.

Both the Pennsylvania and Baltimore-Washington plans utilize maglev technology developed by Transrapid International. The German design is based on a conventional non-superconductingelectromagnetic/attractive magnetic configuration, and has received extensive testing at a full-scale test track in Emsland, Germany. The latest design represents over 20 years of design evolution and 15 years' testing of full-scale Transrapid prototypes, including safety certification by the German government for passenger-carrying revenue service at speeds of 250 mph or higher.

Highlights of the Transrapid system are:

The Transrapid is suitable for transporting goods as well. For high-speed cargo transport, special cargo sections can be combined with passenger sections or assembled to form dedicated cargo trains (payload up to 18 tons per section). As the propulsion system is in the guideway, neither the length of the vehicle nor the payload affect the acceleration power.

If you would like more information about Maglev, visit the Transrapid International website or Maglev of Pennsylvania or the Baltimore-Washington Maglev Project


Archive reference:
U.S. funding for maglev isn't a lock -- Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Baltimore vying
Backers again float plan for Las Vegas-to-Anaheim maglev train

A couple years ago, the competition for the initial, pilot Maglev project was narrowed to Pittsburgh and Baltimore-Washington. As an engineer, I favor Pittsburgh because the challenges presented by the hilly terrain and winter climate would best demonstrate Maglev's advantages under these "adverse" conditions.

I have nothing against the LV-Primm project, other than it doesn't present much of a technical challenge. And the fact that it stops halfway in the middle of nowhere. Granted, it'll have some ridership as a novelty tourist attraction. But it won't really fulfill it's potential until the route is completed all the way to Anaheim.

So of the 3 projects, I still personally favor Pittsburgh.
But if I really had my own way, construction of ALL THREE should be accelerated.

1 posted on 08/22/2005 11:03:16 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

cool


2 posted on 08/22/2005 11:08:21 AM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Willie Green

"Construction would cost an estimated $1.5 billion, or $35.7 million per track mile."

Bet the final tally will double that.

But hey, its all other people's money, right?


3 posted on 08/22/2005 11:16:03 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Willie Green

I wish they would scrap these mass transit white elephants and make it so I could buy a consumer vehicle that would self drive. We would be able to avoid the boodogle of construction, use current roads, and not have the same security considerations.


4 posted on 08/22/2005 11:18:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: RightWhale
HEY, WTF kind of scumbag is Don Young anyway?

Look at what the SOB is doing:
He's handing Harry Reid a showcase transportation project on a silver platter, and undermining the better technological test project in the process.
The only thing I can figure is that the corrupt scumbag is hellbent on keeping us petro-dependent and the price of oil propped up in the long term. He's trying to postpone nationwide Maglev by portraying it as a tourist attraction that'll only work in Vegas. That stinkin' slimeball oughta be booted out of office.

5 posted on 08/22/2005 11:19:16 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

How long is the German test track? It's full size, apparently, but they never say how long it is.


6 posted on 08/22/2005 11:20:44 AM PDT by vrwinger ("You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts." -- Author Unknown)
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To: Pessimist
Bet the final tally will double that.

Nah. Lotta empty dessert between Vegas and Primm.
Acquisition of right-of-way will be dirt cheap.

7 posted on 08/22/2005 11:21:36 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Perhaps we should just get one of the airlines to build it.

They are in the people moving business not the airplane business. It fits their function.


8 posted on 08/22/2005 11:22:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Willie Green
I still personally favor Pittsburgh.

Why? So we'll finally know the answer to the perpetual math problem of which train reaches Pittsburgh first?

9 posted on 08/22/2005 11:24:22 AM PDT by Martin Tell (Red States [should act like they] Rule)
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To: Willie Green

First time I heard Young speak was over thirty years ago when he was a freshman. Highly platitudinous speaker, successful politicians do that naturally. He has figured out that the purpose of Congress is to support business. Business consists of the private property rights of the conglomerates, the cartels, the international corporations. Yes, he supports private property rights, but he cannot be specific.


10 posted on 08/22/2005 11:25:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: vrwinger
How long is the German test track? It's full size, apparently, but they never say how long it is.

They have a 19-mile loop in Emsland, Germany.

11 posted on 08/22/2005 11:27:25 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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"But if I really had my own way, construction of ALL THREE should be accelerated."

A couple of relevant questions:

Is such travel energy efficient? IOW does it compare favorably to gasoline powered automobiles, and trains using other fuels?

Does the train pay for itself, or is it to be subsidized, from other fund sources?

Lotsa people drive from SoCal to Vegas. It is approximately a tank of gas and four hours time.


12 posted on 08/22/2005 11:32:16 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Willie Green

And this is better than flying to Las Vegas airport because.....?


13 posted on 08/22/2005 11:33:18 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: Martin Tell
Why? So we'll finally know the answer to the perpetual math problem of which train reaches Pittsburgh first?

Because it's a pilot, demonstration project.
Pittsburgh's hilly terrain and seasonal climate variation present the most difficult technical challenge to Maglev technology.
Prove the technology in the most challenging environment, and it'll become easier to implement elsewhere.

14 posted on 08/22/2005 11:34:05 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Moral Hazard

Faster and more fuel efficient than short-hop air travel from Southern California.


15 posted on 08/22/2005 11:35:24 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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"Faster and more fuel efficient than short-hop air travel from Southern California."

I live in San Diego. It would take me less time to get to the airport and fly all the way to Vegas than it would take me to just get to the train station in Anaheim.
16 posted on 08/22/2005 11:40:50 AM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: Willie Green
Makes sense.

I like trains much better than air travel, but I'm not wild about govt subsidies.

Is mag-lev promising enough for non-subsidized service?

17 posted on 08/22/2005 11:41:26 AM PDT by Martin Tell (Red States [should act like they] Rule)
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To: Willie Green

Whats 45 million gonna do? Probably print up a nice shiny 50 page report.


18 posted on 08/22/2005 11:42:48 AM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: truth_seeker
Is such travel energy efficient? IOW does it compare favorably to gasoline powered automobiles, and trains using other fuels?

Yes it is, especially when you factor in speed of travel.
On the Anaheim-Primm route, I suspect it's a toss-up between Maglev and high-speed rail.
The high-speed rail would have a construction cost advantage since it travels primarily on ground-level railbed. Maglev's overhead track is more costly, but begins to have cost advantages on rugged terrain that's difficult to grade, and in congested areas where the smaller "footprint" for support becomes less expensive than razing a ground level right-of-way.

Maglev is also faster than high-speed rail, and with fewer moving parts, is less expensive to mechanicly maintain.

19 posted on 08/22/2005 11:47:12 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Moral Hazard
I live in San Diego. It would take me less time to get to the airport and fly all the way to Vegas than it would take me to just get to the train station in Anaheim.

There are long term plans to eventually tie it all together in a network.
Maglev on I-5: The Shapery of things to come?

20 posted on 08/22/2005 11:53:23 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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