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Illegal immigration 'a dagger aimed at our hearts'
The Globe Gazette ^ | 8/20/2005 | Linda Kane

Posted on 08/21/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

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To: A. Pole
Wrong again, mon Socialist nouveau (My pet name for Right-wing collectivists).

I pay taxes so that the US Government will protect me, my family, and my property from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Most of the other costs of Government were incurred without my consent, and I disagree with a majority of them. Nonetheless, we live in a democratic Republic, and until I can change things, I agree to pay tribute to the crooks in Congress who insist on buying other people's votes with my money. It's cheaper than fighting the bastards.

Now if you don't like that I took the Lord's name in vain, I apologize, first because I believe in Him, and second, because I shouldn't let my anger at the Looting Class get the best of me. That said, you are correct that tribalism predates Liberty. Democratic capitalism is a relatively new concept in human development. It was predated by dictatorship, monarchy, theocracy, and brute force, none of which immediately present themselves as morally superior alternatives. I think the best way we can serve the Lord is by doing His work on Earth. In purely economic terms, that means by being productive, voluntarily generous, and by not coveting thy neighbor's ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's. If you saw my neighbor's ass, you'd understand. PS - a sense of humor is also indispensible to happiness.

161 posted on 08/23/2005 4:59:11 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: andy58-in-nh
Nonetheless, we live in a democratic Republic, and until I can change things, I agree to pay tribute to the crooks in Congress who insist on buying other people's votes with my money. It's cheaper than fighting the bastards.

You obey because you must.

162 posted on 08/23/2005 6:43:33 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: andy58-in-nh
I think the best way we can serve the Lord is by doing His work on Earth. In purely economic terms, that means by being productive, voluntarily generous, [...]

He told us to pay taxes and to submit to the government. This includes "involuntary" generosity.

163 posted on 08/23/2005 6:45:45 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: Dane
In actuality, every human being has the ability to make more pies, but you as a self-deemeed and proclaimed pie maker don't like the competition, thus with populist class warfare rhtoric try to inhibit the making of new pies, that will benefit everyone.

A limit on the number of piemakers is done everyday by business owners but doesn't rise to the level of class warfare unless engaged in by the "populists".

164 posted on 08/24/2005 7:31:49 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: palmer
Some of my friends hire illegals which I strongly disagree with, but they have no choice because their business depends on a flexible supply of labor. Regulations and taxes would kill the business if they hired legally.

There are agencies that provide day laborers. Because the laborer is employed by the agency, taxes and regulations apply to them, not the end user.

I have used laborers from agencies from time to time and been very satisfied with the cost and the work.

165 posted on 08/24/2005 7:44:46 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: palmer
Yes, welfare for illegals is a problem, but it's caused by stupid liberals.

No doubt its satisfying to blame liberals for every social ill, but they are out of power at the federal level where immigration policy is made.

166 posted on 08/24/2005 7:54:09 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

It's mostly not a federal problem. The welfare that illegals are taking advantage of that I was referring to is mostly run by the states.


167 posted on 08/24/2005 9:27:33 AM PDT by palmer (If you see flies at the entrance to the burrow, the ground hog is probably inside)
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As I understand it, the federal government requires the states to provide certain services. Several years ago California passed an initiative to end state services to illegal immigrants, but it was overturned in federal court.


168 posted on 08/25/2005 4:50:44 PM PDT by lucysmom
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