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| 8/21/2005
| CholeraJoe
Posted on 08/21/2005 6:02:36 AM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: patton
I've had a CCW since I was 19. My state allows open carry, with a few exceptions like churches and government buildings. I can't begin to tell you how many times open carry has prevented trouble.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:16:44 AM PDT
by
CholeraJoe
("Cowboy the f*ck up!" LT Waters in "Tears of the Sun")
To: lemura
RKBA is based on the idea that an armed society is a free society and capable of controlling the government.
Individual self defense is secondary and incidental to that from what I've read in the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers.
To: patton
Ditto.... Sorry, but Ditto.
In that situation, you pay your bill and leave.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:17:09 AM PDT
by
Capn TrVth
(capntrvth.blogspot.com)
To: CholeraJoe
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:18:31 AM PDT
by
tomakaze
(Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
To: nerdwithamachinegun
You can get a lot more with a kind word and a gun than a kind word. Thanks. All men were not created equal, until Samuel Colt came along.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:18:34 AM PDT
by
CholeraJoe
("Cowboy the f*ck up!" LT Waters in "Tears of the Sun")
To: CholeraJoe
You should probably avoid petty confrontations while wearing that thing.
To: CholeraJoe
A weapon is used for self defense, not intimidating a bunch of drunk kids. What would you have done if one of them got in your face. What would you have done if they kept on talking. What if one of the idiots wanted to take a swing at you. In this case, you have become the aggressor. You would have killed somebodies kid,who for all you know is a good person, just a little drunk and trying to get some breakfast.
I am all for carry, either open or concealed. But, I believe that if you choose to carry, you have an extra responsibility to avoid confrontation.
Kids have a right to be stupid and survive. Heavens know that I didn't survive on my judgment alone when I was that age.
I think what you did was a mistake and if you had discharged your weapon, you have destroyed your own life.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:20:27 AM PDT
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
To: patton
Open carry is a buit different than CCW - It wasn't brandished, CJ did no wrong, and I'm betting the kids (wrongly) assumed he was a UC cop just looking for a **quiet** breakfast. all's well that ends well, and maybe they learned a bit of a lesson.
/JMNSHO
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:21:01 AM PDT
by
xcamel
(Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
To: Jim_Curtis
That's the story I've heard from more than one packer. It makes sense. CJ sounds like a rambo wannabe who was lucky the noisy (but thus far 100% legal) crowd didn't have someone equipped to call his bluff.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:22:22 AM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
To: CholeraJoe
The fact you circled the table twice definitely makes it sound like you were the aggressor. If you have the right to threaten people for being obnoxious most of us won't make it out of puberty.
Who decides when you're being too loud in public? Who gets to judge when using the cell phone is impolite? Anyone with a gun? What you did was wrong.
You enforced the negative image of guns and made it tougher for those of us who want to carry them peacefully.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:22:28 AM PDT
by
usnjay
To: lemura
One can imagine that he could be arrested for threatening other customersHere in CT you can count on it. Having a CCW does not make you a superman, in fact, you need to act the complete opposite.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:23:25 AM PDT
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
To: xcamel
Sounds to me like he was looking for trouble...but, of course, I wasn't there.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:23:49 AM PDT
by
patton
("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
Comment #33 Removed by Moderator
To: CholeraJoe
I can't begin to tell you how many times open carry has prevented trouble.I say again, bad manners does not equal "trouble". I'm 48 but remember well many a late night or early morning where a group of us 20-somethings ended up at diner or truckstop (we were military on TDY) winding down a little alchohol and high spirits over coffee and breakfast. Often in some little town in Montana or Wyoming. I suppose we were just as obnoxious to some. I'd go back in a heartbeat!
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:24:28 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
(Some assembly required.)
To: CholeraJoe
Colt may equalize things, but I still prefer the "Chicago Typewriter."
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:24:35 AM PDT
by
Schwaeky
("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
To: Dad yer funny; Yehuda
hey , this could be a good thread , Cranky Wanker meets Boozey Revelers at Greasy Spoon , overlapping short stories in the wee hours ,... maybe its good NYC doesn't have,er,y'know,... we coulda got popped years ago , we were more twitchy though
To: CholeraJoe
I made no threats, nor touched my weapon. I simply asked them to keep the noise to a reasonable levelWould you have done the same thing if you weren't armed?
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:25:03 AM PDT
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
To: Arkie2
Why would you expect peace and quiet at 430 am on a weekend? Maybe you should just scramble some eggs in the kitchen. So are you making the argument that based on time and location it is ok to act like an asshat in a business establishment annoying other customers. After all it was a breakfast joint not a bar.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:25:27 AM PDT
by
Fzob
(Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
To: CholeraJoe
What gives you the right to eat in quiet at 4:15 a.m. at someone elses place of business? They were the only other patrons at the diner until you arrived, and there is nothing in your vanity post to indicate that they were threatening the waitress, the chef, or anyone else. I would have told you to "stuff it" and "if you think a bit of noise at 4:15 a.m. is worth unholstering your sidearm, then go ahead and make my day." What an a-hole.
To: CholeraJoe
Not until there is a serious threat to life or limb. They could have read you the riot act and had you pulled, YOU would be the one facing decades of dungeon if not worse.
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posted on
08/21/2005 6:26:27 AM PDT
by
The Red Zone
(Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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