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Iran 'supplies infra-red bombs' that kill British troops in Iraq
Telegraph ^ | 08-21-05 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 08/20/2005 9:03:20 PM PDT by Eternal Sea

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To: Cougar66
Thanx for the link -- too bad their file was only available in RealMedia format.

I only keep MediaPlayer on mine. RealMedia has had a really bad habit of "phoning home" -- spyware!

41 posted on 08/21/2005 6:15:18 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Kozak

Excellent point.


42 posted on 08/21/2005 8:43:11 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Cobra64

Salute to your bro for his service, but if he's mad about lack of aggressiveness in Iraq/Iran, he must have gone truly berserk the way we held back in Nam.


43 posted on 08/21/2005 8:45:04 AM PDT by Williams
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To: GSlob

A vehicle spraying a mist of dark paint ahead of it? That would certainly be a sight to behold. Breaking the beam ahead of the first vehicle won't work if the beam is allowed to be broken n times before detonation.


44 posted on 08/21/2005 8:51:59 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Williams

He did. He hated LBJ running the war instead of our military.


45 posted on 08/21/2005 9:56:02 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: ordinaryguy

Once you painted the detector opaque - the beam has been broken for the last time, finally broken. No n times there.


46 posted on 08/21/2005 10:18:50 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: cpdiii

"Take out the leadership of Iran,flood the country with arms,and forment a revolution..."I with ya on that,but we can't expect GW to get involved.He's gonna handle Iran just like he dealt with illegal immigration here in the US.IMHO GW's gonna try to leave Iran for the next prez.


47 posted on 08/21/2005 10:22:16 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Kozak

"That border goes 2 ways. We should be stirring the sh#t on the Iranian side of the border. Must be some
groups (disidents, Iranian Kurds, who could use some weapons and money."

You don't think the 13 Iranian "tour buses" that all crashed into "fuel tanker trucks" at the exact same time in SE Iran near the Pak border were really full of "tourists" do you?

Was the train that exploded in NW Iran levelling a whole village really full of "agricultural chemicals"?

We already know the NK train was carrying missile technology when it "accidently exploded", and that the Iranian borders are wall to wall with elephant cage antennae, I don't think the road map needs to be any plainer than it is right now.


48 posted on 08/21/2005 10:27:14 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: GSlob
You are planning on actually painting the detector? How much paint are you planning on spitting out of this contraption? Mile after mile of how many gallons of paint? Sidewalks, trees, street vendors, cars, buildings, and everything else are going to be coated with layers of paint every day? What color did you have in mind? Because your paint spewer is riding in front of the convoy, all of the vehicles are going to be driving through this great cloud of paint. How will they be able to see through their painted windshields? How will the engines deal with all of the paint they'll be sucking in? How will the soldiers breath?

P.S. n seconds is just as deadly as n times.

49 posted on 08/21/2005 10:44:46 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Eternal Sea

Don't get too excited about it. The Sunday Telegraph seems to have pulled the story. Try the link, which tells you "This story has been temporarily suspended."


50 posted on 08/21/2005 12:07:13 PM PDT by Weiser
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To: GSlob
So if the vehicle continuously (or frequently, say every second) throws a cloud of dust forward …

And of course the vehicle is hooked up to a 20 ton truck load of material, as is every 2nd or 3rd or 5th vehicle – depending on convoy and wind speed.
51 posted on 08/21/2005 12:12:07 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

RED DWARF RULES!!!!!!!!!!1


52 posted on 08/21/2005 2:47:09 PM PDT by TimeLord (A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
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To: Eternal Sea

Is it time yet? Can we bomb Iran yet? Please? Pretty please with sugar on top?


53 posted on 08/21/2005 3:47:16 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (If you think you're having a bad day, try crucifixtion.)
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To: jeffers
Where did you hear/read about these incidents of sudden, extremely violent "accidents"?

And what are "elephant cage antennae"?

54 posted on 08/21/2005 4:21:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Eternal Sea
Incredible that President Bush believes that a "democracy" can be installed in this region. What an endless pit this is. Honorable soldiers are dying needlessly.

Continual surgical air-strikes on key facilities of nations that harbor terrorists is what is needed. That, and a cutoff of UN (IMF and World Bank) funding.

No soldier needs to die if we employed the correct tactics.
55 posted on 08/21/2005 4:45:14 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: GSlob

"So if the vehicle continuously (or frequently, say every second) throws a cloud of dust forward, or sprays a mist of dark paint on everything ahead of it, including the bomb IR sensor, the thing would have to go off prematurely, right?"

To which the counter-counter measure is simply to delay the trigger to compensate.


56 posted on 08/21/2005 7:27:17 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: Kozak
"The border goes two ways."

I was thinking the same thing. Why not set off some IEDs on their side of the border and let them know how it feels?

We have been putting stories in the news for weeks that we were coming up with ways to defeat the IEDs, it is natural that the enemy finds away to neutralize our new weapons. We need to keep new technology a secret until we can use it effectively. I don't just blame our MSM for this, seems like something is always coming out of the government or the pentagon about these things.
57 posted on 08/22/2005 4:11:56 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: standing united

Would it be possible for Special Operations folks to go out into the backcountry to set ambushes along these routes? In SEA, there were so-called "free fire zones" in which anything that moved was deemed hostile. We could do that in Iraq, too, but of course it would not be long before the muslims forced women and children through to be killed at night.


58 posted on 08/22/2005 5:23:07 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: astounded

WE have the tech. to watch the movement of badguys in the area. What they do, is to group up just before they attack, and that is when you want to hit them first.

Having more eyes on the gound in numerous areas where they are suspected of operating will work to track these bad guys and wipe them out.


59 posted on 08/22/2005 8:24:15 AM PDT by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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To: Dave Elias

These beams are not infrared lasers are they? If they are not simple vision system for the driver that can detect infrared might work.

Once terrorists learn to use laser beam with very low diffusion then we are in trouble.


60 posted on 08/22/2005 8:26:03 AM PDT by dimk
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