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Banished from a public library?
Life and Liberty Ministries ^ | 8/20/05 | Dennis Green

Posted on 08/20/2005 8:00:43 PM PDT by 4lifeandliberty

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To: 4lifeandliberty

They probably have a policy for posting material of significance to the community and even a table for distributing other material.

I'd get a copy of their policy and then attempt to accomplish what you hope to through their own policies.


41 posted on 08/21/2005 3:49:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: jude24
Look, I pick up books all the time at the public library that have little messages inserted in the pages, sometimes on post-its, sometimes full sheets of paper! People even write notes in the margins.

So this guy did it on purpose ~ big deal ~ folks taking out the books were not forced to read the stuff.

I view such things as just part of the process of having public lending libraries. Obviously the Head Librarian at that particular library is a fascist pig, eh?!

42 posted on 08/21/2005 6:17:44 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: endthematrix

Parental supervision is a better control than having the state tell me what I, as an adult, may access off of the internet.


43 posted on 08/21/2005 8:19:45 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: 4lifeandliberty
As to the portion about the ALA and the aversion to library filters, I agree with you completely. I also offered to pay for my library's filtering solution and they also refused citing the ALA as the reason why. To see a whole web site dedicated to the ALA and library filters, see www.plan2succeed.org.
44 posted on 08/22/2005 9:36:19 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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To: clyde asbury

I am not surprised. As I said, the letter was not unexpected. This, however, won't stop me from opposing sin wherever it rears it's head even if it is in a public library.


45 posted on 08/23/2005 9:34:06 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: softwarecreator

softwarecreator wrote:
"Although your cause may be noble, do you feel like that is the right place for you to put your "information" when it is clearly stated that you cannot do so?"

My reply:

The short answer is yes.


46 posted on 08/23/2005 9:35:54 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: cyborg

cyborg wrote:
"Some people get a little obsessed about saving people from the consequences of their choices."

My response:
You've got that right. I even heard of a man who let himself be nailed to a tree to save people from the consequencse of their sin. Talk about obsessive!


47 posted on 08/23/2005 9:38:37 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: 4lifeandliberty

I don't equate mere human beings with God.


48 posted on 08/23/2005 9:40:14 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: jude24
Parental supervision is a better control than having the state tell me what I, as an adult, may access off of the internet.

The filters are in place for children only and as an adult you would have complete access.

49 posted on 08/23/2005 9:40:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: softwarecreator

softwarecreator wrote:
"I agree with you. No one can debate that the guy's cause is a good one, but ...
Hanging around in library bathrooms kinda makes you a bit creepy, you know? If I went into a bathroom and some guy, who was obviously hanging out there, came around the corner trying to "hand" me something, he would be requiring medical attention real fast."


Let's stick to reality here. No one was every hanging out in a bathroom passing out literature. A piece of literature was found on the bathroom sink.


50 posted on 08/23/2005 9:40:54 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: jude24

jude24 wrote:
"Why should you have the right to distribute your fliers in library books? Should that right be extended to Planned Parenthood as well?
And, as regards internet pornography, who appointed you the judge of what others should or should not be able to access? Bearing in mind, I write this a pro-lifer who considers pornography dangerous to the mind. But neither you nor I have the authority to tell anyone else what they can research."

"Now thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations." Ezek. 22:2


51 posted on 08/23/2005 9:43:46 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: 4lifeandliberty
Well, apparently you don't have the right, you got banned.

I know I would take offense, and do, to people trying to push their personal agendas on me.  I just wonder if you would have a problem with the Pro-Abortion zeolots sticking brochures at you.

52 posted on 08/23/2005 9:45:24 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: 4lifeandliberty
Let's stick to reality here. No one was every hanging out in a bathroom passing out literature. A piece of literature was found on the bathroom sink.

Well, unless it grew out of the procelain, you had to have been hanging around there to put it on the sink.  And let's not pretend that you just happened to need to use the facilities and just happen to have a brochure with you, because that is too far fetched.  As I said before ... creepy.

53 posted on 08/23/2005 9:48:27 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Cvengr

Cvengr wrote:
"Our King doesn't direct us to disobey legitimate authority. Neither does our action as do-gooder's elevate or promote a Christian way of life. We all have opportunities to witness and are commanded to do so, but that witness needs to lead one to Him on His grounds."


I assume you are opposed to smuggling Bibles into closed (by the lawful Authorities) Countries also. How about preaching even when the lawful authority forbids it?


54 posted on 08/23/2005 9:49:11 AM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: 4lifeandliberty
I was at our local library of Thursday, with my teenage daugther. She checked out books. Later, when she went into a brief work meeting, I flipped through her books.

One book had detailed conversations of teenage boys boasting of their sexual escapades. This went on for several pages.

When my daughter came out, I made her read some of the material in the book. "Did you know that was in there?" I asked. She denied any knowledge.

We drove back to the library and I tore the book in half and put it in the return slot.

55 posted on 08/23/2005 10:02:31 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: The Brush

Two wrights made an airplane.


56 posted on 08/23/2005 10:04:59 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (Montani semper liberi !)
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To: Bear_Slayer

Good for you.


57 posted on 08/23/2005 2:25:18 PM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
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To: 4lifeandliberty

I'd go to the city council and get the policy changed. They pay the money for the libary budget.


58 posted on 08/23/2005 2:28:13 PM PDT by news blogger
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To: 4lifeandliberty
This, however, won't stop me from opposing sin wherever it rears it's head even if it is in a public library.

You would get much more support if you did a mass mailing of the same material. Legal and safe.

But that's your decision, not mine.
59 posted on 08/23/2005 2:47:17 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Whoa-o, here she comes. She's a bad reader.)
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To: 4lifeandliberty

National governance is one of four divine istitutions established by God. It is designed for believer and unbeliever alike for responsible behavior within the world.

The other three institutions include human dominion or volition, marriage, and family.

We have received the Great Commission to communicate the gospel to the world.

If one attempts to use the Great Commission as justification to disobey authority, one may want to be sure that they are not disobeying the will of God by disobeying legitimate authority designed to govern believer and unbeliever alike.

There are many occasions when a do-gooder falls into a trap of legalism or ultra-conservatism, ignoring the chaos they cause in their wake when they act self-righteously while not filled with the spirit.

More tactfully, there may be tests ongoing in the plan of God, where such an unbelieving nation plays a different role in the history of mankind, e.g. as an example for the angelic domain. In such a situation, a Crusader rushing forward in direct disobedience to legitimate authority merely places him in an act of disobedience to the institutions God has established. Such an action might even prolong the national disobedience or harden hearts further from turning to the Lord.

On the opposite realm of possibility, there might be systems of governance wherein illegitimate actions have given temporary power to some persons opposing the will of God, in which one might appeal to a higher legitimate authority and successfully win, thereby having legitimate authority to deliver Bibles and preach accordingly to particular unbelievers it sought to reach earlier.

The object of fulfilling the Great Commission does not supercede the believer's walk with the Lord. If an apparant paradox arises, our priority is to remain in fellowship with Him through Christ.


60 posted on 08/25/2005 1:31:18 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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