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Alaska's Road to Nowhere
NY Times ^ | August 20, 2005 | HEATHER LENDE

Posted on 08/20/2005 4:25:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: HostileTerritory
Anchorage is the least densely populated city in the entire country.

The comparison is invalid. The Municipality of Anchorage is equivalent to a county, that would be a fair comparison. The old city of Anchorage is very constrained geographically and geologically. Most of the population has to live outside the Anchorage bowl. Anchorage cannot invest in high rises due to the extreme earthquake danger combined with the nature of the soil of the Anchorage bowl. Traffic access to the Anchorage bowl is very limited, and the distance to get from inhabitable land to downtown is large.

81 posted on 08/21/2005 8:38:48 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: HostileTerritory
perhaps your company should consider locating elsewhere

Actually, the majority of my company is located somewhere else. They are working in Russia developing oil fields in a place that are not held up by lying environmentalists, grand standing politicians and citizens that think building infrastructure is a bad thing.

82 posted on 08/21/2005 8:48:29 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: neverdem
... where thousands of people living in Collin County (north of Dallas) may soon be burdened with tolls on "highway" 121 (the main east-west link between McKinney/Allen/Frisco/north Plano and Dallas-Fort Worth International airport).

The politicians/highway planners are talking about using the collected tolls to pay for improvements beyond the 121 corridor.

What a Joke.

Hey Alaska... enjoy that pavement. It sure would be nice if you'd spare any extra.

83 posted on 08/21/2005 8:48:47 AM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: neverdem

She's a resident of some twenty years in Haines and a prolific writer, or so it would seem from a quick Google.

I'll chalk this up as a NIMBY screed, albeit a well-written one.


84 posted on 08/21/2005 9:21:50 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: thackney

Nonsense. You're in favor of government taking my money to build bridges to nowhere. If Anchorage is bursting at the seams like you say, there should be plenty of free-market incentives for developers to buy up homes like yours and put up townhouses. The fact that that isn't happening speaks volumes about development pressures in Anchorage.


85 posted on 08/21/2005 9:42:25 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: thackney

I don't like going down to Anchorage any more. The traffic is even worse than Fairbanks's. I wouldn't want to live there, although living in Seward, Ketchikan, or Kenai and having a boat wouldn't be so bad. The thing that gets me is that there are so many unfounded ideas about what is going on in Alaska by those who haven't been here to see for themselves. Even Paul Harvey is annoying in that respect. But, Hillary is just unbelieveable.


86 posted on 08/21/2005 9:43:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: HostileTerritory
The fact that that isn't happening speaks volumes about development pressures in Anchorage.

The fact that it IS happening, shows the great pressure for homes in Anchorage. Three lots on my street are doing that NOW, and I live outside Anchorage and commute into town.

If you look online about the number of acres in Anchorage, make sure you understand that a lot of it looks like this:

Beautiful, but not very useful for homes.

87 posted on 08/21/2005 9:58:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RightWhale
When I first moved from Houston, a co-worker had moved from Fairbanks. He missed Fairbanks, because it was a smaller city, less traffic, easier to get around and a shorter commute to work. I laughed long and hard. Those were almost the exact words I described Anchorage to my Wife.
88 posted on 08/21/2005 10:00:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Speaking of Houston, AK, if you lived there and commuted into Anch, it would be like living in Philly and driving into Manhattan. Also, speaking of Houston, AK, Fairbanks has been buried in smoke the past couple of weeks, just like all last summer. I understand Anch. lucked out on fire this summer. What happened to our clean air?


89 posted on 08/21/2005 10:09:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: sharktrager

The article seems to lament the amount of federal dollars that Alaska is asking for the project. (I did not read the entire article as it is from the NY Times and I don't hit their site if I can avoid it.) My question was, therefore, as someone who pays federal taxes, as I am sure she does, is she as concerned with the fed dollars that flow in the WV and MA as she seems to be with the money that goes to Alaska?


90 posted on 08/21/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by asp1
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To: asp1

Massachusetts gets 77 cents for every dollar we send to Washington.

Even at the peak of Tip O'Neill's power in the 1980s, when we got the money for the Big Dig, we never quite broke even. We came close, but we still subsidized the rest of the country by a cent or more on the dollar, even as our economy was spiralling into the Dukakis recession.

The difference between the Big Dig and the Bridge to Nowhere is that people actually use the Big Dig.


91 posted on 08/21/2005 10:18:22 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: thackney

Thanks for the picture; I won't argue for a moment that I don't know anything about Anchorage's topography vs. someone who lives there.

That said, I fired up Google satellite to get an idea of what the development looks like, and found these neighborhoods:

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=61.112069,-149.795151&spn=0.038147,0.121708&z=4&t=h&hl=en

Huge areas of single family homes on nice-sized lots, occupying a swath of land as big as downtown. This doesn't look like the Lower East Side to me.


92 posted on 08/21/2005 10:21:31 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: konaice
The feds have 95% of Alaskan lands tied up, contrary to the Statehood act.

A common problem out West, and something I think most Easterners, Midwesterners and Southerners have no clue about. They don't realize how pervasive the control of the Federal government is out here. I'd wager that it is almost impossible to get out of sight of Federally controlled land west of Denver.

93 posted on 08/21/2005 10:21:42 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Kozak
You want to pick my pocket for pork in Alaska, when you already get $1.89 for every dollar you pay in federal taxes and I'M a socialist?

You may want to check your assumptions. How much of the $1.89 is going to back to the residents, and how much is going to administer the huge amount of Federally controlled National Parks, Forests, Wilderness Areas, Military reserves, etc. Combine the costs of running these with the small population, and you get this sort of skewed statistic.

94 posted on 08/21/2005 10:30:27 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: RightWhale

Not to mention the traffic and hazardous driving to Anchorage from Wasilla in the winter. Oh man that's awful.


95 posted on 08/21/2005 10:31:57 AM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: knak

Traffic from Wasilla on is bad enough in the summer. I'll just stay in Fairbanks, thanks.


96 posted on 08/21/2005 10:36:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: LexBaird

In 1992, Alaska got $1.26 back for every dollar it spent. The forests haven't gotten any bigger or needier since then, but Alaska's federal politicans have amassed FAR more power since 1994. You do the math.


97 posted on 08/21/2005 10:38:22 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory

If they would allow some resource development such as coal mining and open some land for homesteading it would be more tolerable. Most of the resources are frozen for development by those Eastern politicians.


98 posted on 08/21/2005 10:41:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: HostileTerritory

You assume too much, Hostile, fitting name by the way. I was not "attacking" her "journalism" as much as I was questioning her politics and her agenda. My "silly" comment was a question.


99 posted on 08/21/2005 10:54:41 AM PDT by asp1
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To: konaice

Beautiful photos. Thanks for sharing.


100 posted on 08/21/2005 10:56:44 AM PDT by asp1
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