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Rice: Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip is only a first step
Haaretz ^ | 8/18/2005 | Haaretz

Posted on 08/18/2005 6:04:21 AM PDT by Sabramerican

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To: truthandlife

"Pray for GW Bush and his clueless foreign policy consultants."

I would add the following:

Pray for GW Bush and his clueless DOMESTIC policy consultants.

Pray for GW Bush and his clueless IMMIGRATION policy consultants.

Pray for GW Bush and his clueless CFR policy consultants.

Pray for GW Bush and his clueless Council Foreign Relations policy consultants.

Pray for GW Bush and his clueless Medicare policy consultants.


21 posted on 08/18/2005 6:17:42 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: Sabramerican

I wonder if Israel realizes how it looks for their people to be carried out and put on buses hanging out the windows crying.


22 posted on 08/18/2005 6:18:10 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (I hold Cindy responsible if we are attacked while everyone is distracted in Crawford by idiocy!)
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To: section9

That is a cold calculation, Chris. I like it.

I still can't fathom why advertise it though. They can be working to isolate the Palis in their own playpen as a policy in Israel, but why should the US be front and center the mouthpiece to the Arab world? Does Dr. Rice really believe her statements will achieve some consideration from the Arabs that would be more beneficial than the perceived betrayal of the Israelis?


23 posted on 08/18/2005 6:18:51 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: veronica
Mother Condi sure has changed her tune. She makes Colin Powell look good.
Not neccesarily. During Term 1, the Administration needed to use the good cop/bad cop approach with both Israel and the Arabs. She was the good cop with the Israelis, Powell the bad cop. They switched roles with the Arabs.

Now she has the primary role all to herself, and needs to promote the Administration's policy.

-Eric

24 posted on 08/18/2005 6:19:22 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: truthandlife

I don't look to politicians to uphold anything biblical just by their very nature.


25 posted on 08/18/2005 6:19:27 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: truthandlife
America as a nation is in danger of being cursed!

No it's not. Don't you realize Republicans know more than God? < /extreme sarcasm>

They've supported giving part of Israel away as part of the 'road map'. And still the party faithful will support them no matter what.

26 posted on 08/18/2005 6:19:39 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: 302damnfast

We are at a stage- and Rice is further proof- where your type explanation (and others) moves from ignorant wishful thinking to just plain idiocy.


27 posted on 08/18/2005 6:19:41 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: cyborg

Forget Biblical

Is it OK to murder a tiny Democratic ally surrounded by a sea of enemy barbarism?


28 posted on 08/18/2005 6:21:01 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Sabramerican

Wasn't the Gaza Strip a part of Egypt before they commited an acyt of war againstIsrael by blockaiding Israel's main seaport.

Why is Gaza going to a population of people with no nation?


29 posted on 08/18/2005 6:22:17 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Sabramerican

You can't forget biblical. Jews and Arabs would not have existed without the Bible. They're been fighting with eachother from day one.


30 posted on 08/18/2005 6:22:53 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: HankReardon

Good question.


31 posted on 08/18/2005 6:24:10 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: OldFriend
You are right, but it still hurts.
It's like surgery. It can be painful, it can be unpleasant to watch, and one can only hope that complications are kept to a minimum.

But it's absolutely essential to the long term survival of the patient.

-Eric

32 posted on 08/18/2005 6:24:40 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned from FR has never read a Middle East thread.)
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To: E Rocc

Blah blah blah. Terrorists are rewarded, and that will backfire on the US. Mother Condi is a huge disappointment. Even Powell had more tact and heart. And that's saying something!


33 posted on 08/18/2005 6:25:27 AM PDT by veronica ("America has been killing people on this continent since it was started." - Mother Sheehan)
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To: veronica

Condi isn't president. This is a Bush policy. Who do you think is president Bush or Condi?


34 posted on 08/18/2005 6:27:00 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: Sabramerican

That's funny. I thought we were at a stage where nasty, belligerent people on internet forums stoop to insults for absolutely no reason.


35 posted on 08/18/2005 6:27:14 AM PDT by 302damnfast
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To: TheBattman

I couldn't agree more with your post. Israel is not the bad guy here. It's time for the Palestinians to step up and show something tangible like controlling the border and arresting terrorists and stop calling them martyrs. I read stories of how they still want to eliminate Israel. Pathetic.


36 posted on 08/18/2005 6:27:20 AM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: section9
Better the enemy without than the enemy within.

You make a good point, Chris. I was dead set against a Palestinian state for a long time. Now it is probably inevitable, and does offer some advantages.

1. Palestine will be a nation-state and will be expected to behave like one. Legitimate governments do not sponsor terror. They can be put on the state sponsors of terror list and we can refuse to give them any aid or trade with them.

2. Once they are a country they can be invaded if clear provocation is shown.

3. It will take away a major gripe that the Arab world has against us. (In my opinion most of the leaders of Arab nations could not care less about the "Palenstinians", however they use it as an excuse to spurn us.) Al Qaeda claims to care, more or less, though I don't read about Al Qaeda activity in Palestine. SO politically it might be a good move.

I am still not comfortable with taking Israeli land, but everyone will answer to god someday.

37 posted on 08/18/2005 6:28:19 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: E Rocc

We don't need lectures on surgery from Dr. Death, thank you. Once upon a time Mother Condi had an unswerving anti-terror stance.


38 posted on 08/18/2005 6:29:08 AM PDT by veronica ("America has been killing people on this continent since it was started." - Mother Sheehan)
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To: Sabramerican

Since the Palistinians will see these consessions as the fruits of their terrorism, why in would should we expect them to give up those tactics? Once the dust settles they will just ramp up another round of Jihad seeking more concessions including all of Jerusalem.


39 posted on 08/18/2005 6:30:45 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: cyborg

That's true, but the State Dept. frames the policy for the public. To come out now, at this moment, and put the onus on Israel in this manner, is bizarre. But Mother Condi has had a tin ear since she took the job as Sec. of State.


40 posted on 08/18/2005 6:32:02 AM PDT by veronica ("America has been killing people on this continent since it was started." - Mother Sheehan)
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