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--> The Cult of Evolution – the Opiate of the Atheists
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Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01

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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You claim that someone directed every random result. If someone directs the result, then it wasn't a random event. It was a random result though, as the designer did not know what was going to happen. Therefore, you don't know what random means. Ok Ricky? :)

The machine made random propositions, just as it had been created to do. God (the programmer) decided whether it was good or bad (algorithm). God, did so even before He CREATED the machine, and before he breathed the breath of LIFE into it (software). GOD, being omniscient (sp?) knew the answers to every question, even before they were asked by his creation. Alas, his creation did not posses(sp? spell check thinks it's ok) free will.

The machine created nothing. The machine said how about this? GOD said, nopeth, or yupeth. And so it came to pass according to HIS wishes. Do I hear an AMEN? :-)

461 posted on 08/16/2005 9:22:48 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings

This is a lie. Only the MSM article alluded to this study supporting evolution. The Harvard scientists made no such claim. Because some journalist made an ignorant claim it is true? You really WILL believe anything.




If you nitpicked evolution as aggressively as you whine over an article that you don't agree with, evolution would be DEAD already. Stick a fork in it please, it's done already...

Evolution is dead, evolution is the opiate of the atheists...

Let it die and stop trying to defend the indefensible. Do you realize how silly it is that you will "nitpick" something that YOU have not contacted the story author about the Harvard article on, but you insist because the detail that YOU are looking for is not clearly spelled out that it is not true.

Using YOUR OWN LOGIC, there are so many holes in evolution it is plainly not true. And willful belief in defiance of the truth that evolution is a lie, is nothing but fundamentalist religious fanaticism...

Evolution is the opiate of the atheists.

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462 posted on 08/16/2005 9:23:29 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: GSHastings
"GOD, being omniscient (sp?) knew the answers to every question, even before they were asked by his creation."

No, as has been pointed out to you, the results were RANDOM. The designer had no way of knowing what the final results would be. You still don't know what random means.
463 posted on 08/16/2005 9:25:19 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: woodb01
"Let it die and stop trying to defend the indefensible. Do you realize how silly it is that you will "nitpick" something that YOU have not contacted the story author about the Harvard article on, but you insist because the detail that YOU are looking for is not clearly spelled out that it is not true."

Nitpicking over your blatant lies is not a vice. You said the Harvard scientists claimed this study will support evolution; you knew this was false but said it anyway. Lying for the Lord will not get you a good seat in heaven.
464 posted on 08/16/2005 9:28:20 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

That's a lie. Show one quote from these articles from a Harvard scientist saying this will help support evolution. Your *multiple sources* are the SAME SOURCE! They are all the same AP story, word for word! The journalist who wrote this piece is the one who has inserted evolution into it, not the Harvard scientists. Why must you Lie for the Lord? It is not even a good lie.




Why are you getting so upset? Come on now, I'm relying on multiple sources and you MUST accept them as absolutely true because *I* believe them and the authors agree with me. The media publications are from professional organizations so that is irrefutable proof that you are wrong and I am right.

It is absolutely incontrovertable proof now YOU PROVE they're wrong. And by the way, you can't prove that they're wrong because I say you can't prove it. It's the truth and all you're challenging the very existence of Harvard and of the media outlets themselves by this crazy talk...

I think I got the evolutionary lines down now. See, I'm even practicing natural selection by selecting the arguments and issues that I want to believe and ignoring anything you say that I don't agree with! I think I'm getting the hang of this.

And let me assure you of one more thing, God is big enough that he doesn't need me to lie for him... He can do as he wants. I speak for me, and for my own conclusions. I'm sorry you're so fixated on religion, and do you hate religion and God that much that you think I speak for God?

I'm not that foolish! I do NOT speak for God... Creation does that for me :-)


465 posted on 08/16/2005 9:31:30 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: Pete
So, again, why do care about anything? All is vanity. I fail to see how existence is preferable to non-existence. How does one who is an atheist and an evolutionist not become a secular existentialist? Back to specifics, what do you hope to achieve by coming on FR and debating? Given that any such argument is ultimately completely meaningless, I wonder why you show up?

Who's going to win the Superbowl? The Oscar? The Nobel Prize? Why care? Ultimately All is vanity (I think somebody said that once).

But we're on a journey, no reason we can't have fun on the way.

In spite of this awareness of fate, or perhaps because of it, the picture of man's quslities which emerges from the myths is a noble one. The gods are heroic figures, men writ large, who led dangerous, individualistic lives, yet at the same tome were part of a closeky-knit family group, with a firm sense of values and certain intense loyalties. They would give up their lives rather than surrender these values, but they would fight as long as they could, since life was well worth while.
Men knew the gods whom they served could not give them freedom from danger and calimity, and they did not demand they should. We find in the myths no sense of bitterness at the harshness and unfairness of life, but rather a spirit of heroic resignation: humanity is born to trouble, but courage, adventure, and the wonders of life are matters of thankfulness, to be enjoyed while life is still granted to us.
The great gifts of the gods were readiness to face the world as it was, the luck that sustains men in tight places, and the opportunity to win that glory which alone can outlive death - H R Ellis Davidson Scandinavian Mythology

466 posted on 08/16/2005 9:31:44 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Natural Selection is the Free Market : Intelligent Design is the Centrally Planned Economy)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Does it say, *The Origin of Life*? No, just species.

How's this for the title then?

"Evolution-The Origin of All Species Except One, And Don't Think That I'm Explaining That One, Because I'm NOT!"

467 posted on 08/16/2005 9:31:59 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: dartuser

BTTT


468 posted on 08/16/2005 9:36:13 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: WillMalven; narby
Yeah, why isn't life a multiple choice test instead of an essay?

Worse, it's a first draft essay: no rewrites allowed.

469 posted on 08/16/2005 9:38:28 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Natural Selection is the Free Market : Intelligent Design is the Centrally Planned Economy)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Worse, it's a first draft essay: no rewrites allowed.

Kind've like the article at the top of this thread, then.

470 posted on 08/16/2005 9:40:02 PM PDT by malakhi (Gravity is a theory in crisis.)
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To: woodb01

"Why are you getting so upset?"

Because you are lying.

"Come on now, I'm relying on multiple sources and you MUST accept them as absolutely true because *I* believe them and the authors agree with me. The media publications are from professional organizations so that is irrefutable proof that you are wrong and I am right."

No, they weren't multiple sources, they were the same source. But you are a practiced liar for the Lord, so why should that stop you.

You got caught in a lie and now are trying to turn it around. Pathetic.

"And let me assure you of one more thing, God is big enough that he doesn't need me to lie for him"

And yet you try.

"I'm sorry you're so fixated on religion, and do you hate religion and God that much that you think I speak for God? "

I don't hate religion, just liars.



471 posted on 08/16/2005 9:40:04 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: js1138

oh, I dunno... I think a case can be made for the true machine screw being a fundamental technical innovation which has benefitted the well-being of countless billions of people ;)


472 posted on 08/16/2005 9:40:38 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: woodb01

"How can challenging the validity of evolution be the end of science?"

You are challenging science with a leap of faith, with a proposition that is supernatural, untestable, unverifiable.

You are free to criticise TOE. You are free to not believe it. But within science, you must adhere to the rules of science. If the fundamental aspects of the scientific method are abandoned, to a leap of faith, science and Reason itself is in fact undermined.




Would you be against teaching ID in another class?
Do you insist ID is science?

Calling the combined scientific community at Harvard University idiots is an absolute Troll Classic, BTW.

I am sure you will be cut and pasted all over the leftist blogosphere to demonstrate how really stupid freepers are.

Well done.

I still think Mr Robinson should have vaporized your a$$.


473 posted on 08/16/2005 9:42:16 PM PDT by pending
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To: GSHastings
" How's this for the title then?

"Evolution-The Origin of All Species Except One, And Don't Think That I'm Explaining That One, Because I'm NOT!""

It would acknowledge the fact that evolution has never been about the origin of life. A little awkwardly worded though; an editor you are not.
474 posted on 08/16/2005 9:44:12 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No, only YOU and other creationists have that fetish

You have a poor memory. You know, as I have told you before, I'm an atheist... (It is the result of your obvious connection to zealotry in defending of marijuana.)

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Humans and apes share a common ancestor; this much is certain from all the available evidence.

No it is not. No “missing link,” no evidence. Dr. Leaky never found any. Humans did not evolve from apes, nor is there evidence, as of yet, of common ancestry, none.

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But thanks for showing your ignorance! :)
Thanks for showing your ignorance! :)

You are a Marxist with a poor memory. That is a typical Marxist response, as is your first quip attacking me as a creationist. Standard Marxist tactics.

475 posted on 08/16/2005 9:47:46 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Humans did not evolve from apes, nor is there evidence, as of yet, of common ancestry, none.

Hey its beyond doubt. Here's a certain part that convinces me: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html#retroviruses

476 posted on 08/16/2005 9:51:29 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: woodb01
Evolution is the opiate of the atheists.

Evolution is the opiate of the Marxists. It is a theory that is their immaculate conception.

477 posted on 08/16/2005 9:53:41 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No, as has been pointed out to you, the results were RANDOM. The designer had no way of knowing what the final results would be. You still don't know what random means.

Nope. Sorry, the results were not random. The results occured according to design. The machine was programed to generate hypothetical circuit designs. The algorithm determined if it was a good proposition, or a bad proposition, and that was strictly a function of INTELLIGENT DESIGN with a predestined goal in MIND. If the process had occured manually, with the programmer directing the flow exactly as his algorithms compelled the flow to occur, the results would have been IDENTICAL. It would have taken a lot longer. But the results would have been identical, each and every step of he way. And that fact is due entirely to the INTELLIGENT DESIGN which was directing the flow of the program.

Depending on how the random function generator was "seeded" it is possible for the program to generate exactly the same circuit design, running through all the same sequences, exactly the same, each and every time.

The only thing that was "random" were the proposed circuit elements. But it was INTELLIGENT DESIGN that SELECTED them according to a GOAL. (which, coincidentally, is probably how life works):-)

478 posted on 08/16/2005 9:57:56 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings
Which is why Darwin title his book "Evolution - The Origin Of Species (except the first one of course)".

That would be a more logical title as applied to those who have such a reverence for the religion of evolution.

Evolution is their immaculate conception... you blasphemer, you! ; ^)

479 posted on 08/16/2005 10:00:02 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Evolution is the opiate of the Marxists.

That's an insult.

A very ill informed insult from someone who has no idea who he's addressing and what their reasoning for accepting evolution really is.

480 posted on 08/16/2005 10:01:14 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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