The Seminoles' Trail of Tears-NCAA ethnically cleanses Indian warriors from collegiate sports

Frontpage Magazine ^ | 8-15-05 | David Yeagley

[teacherwoes]

Does anyone know if there are other schools, besides Florida State, that are fighting to keep their Indian mascot?

[smith288]

Having a team mascot named the "Injuns" I can see but the Seminoles is a proud Native American tribe and the FSU really honors them. I have the NCAA...

My pet project

[barkeep]

This definitely falls in the category of "Some people just have too much time on their hands." If the Texas UIL, controlling high school athletics, follows suit, our local Lakeview Chiefs will be in need of a new logo and mascot. I tried the "Lakeview Inclusionary Multiculturalists", but it just doesn't trip lightly off the tongue, and frankly my imagination hit a dry hole trying to come up with a graphic logo to go with it. Maybe someone from the NCAA's committee, now that their work limiting freedom of speech is done, perhaps they might have the spare time to help us out.

[smith288]

have = hate

My pet project

[smith288]

CHange it to the "Chefs" but interwine the f into a mix of i and f... Chefs use arrows sometimes dont they??? ;)

My pet project

[Pearls Before Swine]

Sure, let's get rid of these names. Just forget the Seminoles ever existed, out of respect. Unnamed, forgotten, respected. /sarc

[SJackson]

I understand the University of Illinois "Illini" are considering taking action. They've been fighting to retain the name and mascot, Chief Illiniwek, for years.

Honor the Chief

[Archon of the East]

I don't see an Indian name as derogatory because I have respect and admiration for Native American Indians and their history and culture. I guess it's the people who claim it to be offensive that are the true bigots. I have always said Liberal Democrats of today are at heart the most hateful bigots around, so much so they have to disguise it by joining a "cause" out of guilt.

[OKSooner]

Don't know of any in particular, but from what I've heard this isn't limited to just FSU. Florida State is just the most visible because of the success of their football team.

Also, I'm going to keep reiterating my favorite rant, so my apologies to anyone who reads it more than four or five hundred times and finds it redundant:

The University of Oklahoma lost its mascot, Little Red, back in 1972 because of this kind of stuff.

Don't let this happen to your school.

[OKSooner]

BTW, this Yeagley dude must be the real deal. The fact that he's a conservative Native American holding his own in the OU Liberal Studies program (trust me here, I've met the dean) speaks volumes about him.

[P.O.E.]

Ted Turner - relinquish your marketing deals! (Not gonna happen? Why not?)

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

My question is why does anybody pay attention to these nuts? They are not the law of the land. Make them irrelevant. Ignore them. They only get their power if folks pay attention to them.

[WV Mountain Mama]

My high school and university lost their mascots. They were Indians and even a (gasp) squaw. Oh the humanity. I was always proud of them because of their fighting spirit, but what do I know, I guess.

Maybe the NCAA should focus on the number of criminals getting full rides at universities all over the US, getting barely passing grades, continuing their criminal ways while at school and then dropping out immediately after their sports career is over. College sports is a business, and they need to ask how many of these "scholar" athletes will ever make a monetary donation to anything when they are done.

[Tax-chick]

I was always proud of them because of their fighting spirit

Fighting spirit is a bad thing now.

[WV Mountain Mama]

That and the war dance that would follow every football score! LOL! Oh the good ol' days....

[Modernman]

What liberals and PC-weenies don't seem to grasp is that people don't name their teams for things or people they do not respect. Florida State's team is named the Seminoles because, presumably, the people of that school consider "Seminole" to be a term that embodies strength, determination, honor etc.

That's why Florida State hasn't named its team the "Surrendering Franch Soldiers."

[barkeep]

Actually, some teams don't seem to give it much thought. In FSU's case, they bothered to consult with the Seminole tribe, I believe might even pay them a token copyright. On the other hand, within just my state we have a good dozen or more "Steers", the nearest being the Big Spring high school. Why one wants to name one's prize collection of rough, tuff, battle-hardened athletes after an emasculated meat animal still escapes me. I look for PETA to take up that case any day now.

[subterfuge]

How soon before we start re-naming the cities, steets, lakes, counties, mountains and valleys? About half the names of these places in Florida are named after indian, oops, I mean Orignal/Native/Indigent Americans.

[neoconette]

It's too late! It has been happening to all schools, including public high schools, nationwide for quite some time now.
Maybe the NCAA could learn something from the Native American Sports Council (NASC)regarding how to be proud of warrior images instead of offended by them. Seems the NASC loves their warrior image! Ask yourself this..if it's really so offensive, why would the NASC use this image? http://www.nascsports.org/