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Germany attacks US on Iran threat
BBC World News - world edition | Saturday, 13 August 2005

Posted on 08/15/2005 4:57:16 AM PDT by hildy123

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It's time for Gerhard to get re-elected. Here we go again with all the anti-American BS. Well, more than the normal tirades.
1 posted on 08/15/2005 4:57:16 AM PDT by hildy123
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He's just surrendering before terrorists interfere in German elections.


2 posted on 08/15/2005 4:59:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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""Let's take the military option off the table. We have seen it doesn't work," Mr Schroeder told Social Democrats at the rally in Hanover"

- Is this guy retarded?


3 posted on 08/15/2005 4:59:38 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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It's time the U.S. shuts down (aka; 'relocates') all military related bases in Germany and put them into U.S.-friendly countries elsewhere in Europe.


4 posted on 08/15/2005 5:01:19 AM PDT by harpu
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Schroeder is such a frikkin' buffoon! And Germany is leading Europe's down-hill spiral into loserville.
5 posted on 08/15/2005 5:02:44 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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I believe Poland has expressed a willingness to accept our bases on their soil.


6 posted on 08/15/2005 5:04:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462761/posts

Double post!


7 posted on 08/15/2005 5:05:17 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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As a result of the Oil for Food scam, we can see already we can't trust France or Germany in this matter.

We are not going to take the military option off the table, so what's he going to do about it?

If Iran is not a threat, then why are Germany and France trying to get them to stop working on their nuclear reactors?


8 posted on 08/15/2005 5:05:33 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Oh, the horror of it all.


9 posted on 08/15/2005 5:06:25 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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yep


10 posted on 08/15/2005 5:07:37 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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It also sounds like Germany is even closer to Irans nuke program than we had previously thought. The Germans don't want us finding all of Irans nuke stuff labeled "Made In Germany".


11 posted on 08/15/2005 5:07:52 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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Germany isnt important enough to have an opinion.


12 posted on 08/15/2005 5:08:10 AM PDT by rrrod
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Of course Schroeder is saying this. He and his fellow countrymen have a LOT of money and contracts tied into arming Iran and helping them go nuclear in the same way these European buffoons tried to protect Saddam and that little oil for food scam!


13 posted on 08/15/2005 5:10:07 AM PDT by Obadiah
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Gerhard Schroeder is an insignificant, little man running for his political last train. Displays a subtle hint of Jimmy Carter courage.


14 posted on 08/15/2005 5:10:33 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Time for Schroeder to eat some "bad" scnitzel


15 posted on 08/15/2005 5:10:35 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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As I said on the other thread, Germany is a deeply pacifist country at heart - not surprisingly, after starting and losing two world wars. Even re-enactors are deeply mistrusted here. So the fact that Schröder and Fischer were actually able to send troops to Kosovo and Afghanistan was nothing short of astounding for anyone familiar with its recent history.
There is NO chance of any support for or participation in military action against Iran. I don't believe a future Chancellor Merkel would change that, unless such action is UN-approved, and maybe not even then. I doubt also that any other European country (except perhaps the UK reluctantly) will help the US.
In any case, military action against Iran would be extremely foolish, as the President doubtless knows. I'm sure this is just a bit of bluffing, as he surely knows that Iran itself could fight back hard, and most Islamic countries would side with them too. The Shia in Iraq would surely rise against US troops, putting an end to any chance of a good outcome there, and any pro-US sentiment in Iran will be extinguished. Terrorism would soar. The Iranians could disrupt oil supplies enough to severely hurt or even crash the western economies. And China would also not be best pleased if its oil supply is disrupted. If world opinion starts to perceive the USA as a loose cannon or rogue state that has to be stopped at any cost, there's no telling what might happen. I simply can't believe the US will be so reckless as to risk all that. It's just playing into the hands of Bin-Laden (who despises the Iranians as heretics) and his crazy apocalyse theories.


16 posted on 08/15/2005 5:16:32 AM PDT by ukman
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This looks more and more like the way things were going before the US went into Iraq in 2003.


17 posted on 08/15/2005 5:22:32 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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I agree with this; there's not much need for US troops in Germany any more. That said, the left too have been calling for this for years, while the conservatives want to keep them. In some towns(i.e Darmstadt) the authorities are already looking forward to redeveloping the land, and the vacated housing will also boost the local economy. About 950 workers will be lost, of which 700 are Americans. The fact is, the American troops and their dependents aren't all that significant; their dollar-fixed purchasing power keeps most of them on the base or makes them thrifty off-base. It's only in a few towns and villages completely dominated by the military that any impact will be felt: they'll lament a bit at losing their friends (they're usually very pro-US in these locations) and then make do and move on. For that matter, the German government too has been closing Bundeswehr bases, it's no big deal here.
I think Poland would suit you fine. Cheaper, although not so good an infrastructure and Poland's not world-famous for good beer and food. But there are worse places!


18 posted on 08/15/2005 5:26:55 AM PDT by ukman
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Obviously mister Schroeder hope the shelter of iranian's nuclear weapons?!?!
He hope so to avoid terrorist's strikes in germany!But it's not enough mister SCHROEDER !He will have soon to do more to be a good partner/fellow for BenLaden and hese dogs....

Certainly mister Schroeder(the fellow in shame of mister Chirac)doesn't understand anything in diplomacy which must keep all options on the table including military option.
Coward and stupid in the same time its hard!

Multilateralism is non-sense!
USA go ahead


19 posted on 08/15/2005 5:29:02 AM PDT by Ulysse (FRENCH FOR BUSH)
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Let's hope that the Conservatives show Gerhard/Fischer the door. Whether they saw themselves as national or international socoalists, many Germans have marched together with Islamist in the past! Here's some linked photos of Yasser Arafat's uncle - the Grand Mufti of Jerusalum (Hajj Amin al-Husayni) during WW II. In the words of the Grand Mufti, there are "considerable similarities between Islamic principles and National Socialism."

The Grand Mufti Salutes Nazi Troops

The Grand Mufti w/ Hitler (1941)

Grand Mufti inspects his Moslem Nazi troops (1943)

Yes, those Fezzes had SS insignia

20 posted on 08/15/2005 5:37:26 AM PDT by drpix
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