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Tax Exemption Under Review (Benny Hinn...
Star-Telegram ^ | Aug 13, 2005 | Darren Barbee

Posted on 08/13/2005 9:51:17 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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But wouldn't allowing access to only those with access cards scuttle Hinn's headquarters as being a place of public worship, and thereby its tax-exempt status?
1 posted on 08/13/2005 9:51:18 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Here come the pitchers. Lemme be the first!


2 posted on 08/13/2005 9:53:54 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Halleluyah!


3 posted on 08/13/2005 9:55:02 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Revolting cat!
Here come the pitchers. Lemme be the first!

I'm next.


4 posted on 08/13/2005 10:00:32 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It is a tough call ... one could easily say that the card holders are there for worship purposes (primarily the worship of geld) and who is to say that a religion is not allowed to qualify their membership, i.e. not be required to accept all comers but rather provide identification to their members that happens to also work the access gates. Do you have a key to your church?

IMHO, BH is a fraud as are many like him but he does have the support of his "worshipers" who continue to flood him with money. I think in the long run we need to suffer fools like him and leave it to his followers if they want to believe his message or not. It's a Slippery Slope argument for sure but unfortunately warranted in this case.

5 posted on 08/13/2005 10:01:46 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This guy, like Robert Tilton and Jim Bakker, gives Christianity a bad name. It would be fine with me if they nail him.


6 posted on 08/13/2005 10:01:48 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: All; BibChr; nmh

Here is some additional stuff one may want to look at:

"Preachers who live in big homes and drive big cars ought to re-examine their cxalling." (Benny Hinn, speaking at his church in Florida)

Perhaps Benny should practice what he preaches?

http://www.myfortress.org/BennyHinn.html

AUDIO CLIPS:

"Don't tell me you have Jesus. You ARE everything He was, and everything He is and shall be." Benny Hinn, TBN

http://op.50megs.com/tell!.wav

"Theres a groups here in California that thinks they are the judgement seat of Christ. Dear God in heaven. I wish I just could just...they call it a ministry, my foot. You know I've looked for one verse in the Bible. I just can't seem to find it. One verse that said, "If you don't like 'em kill 'em" I really wish I could find it.

http://op.50megs.com/hinn3.rm

"You see, frankly, That's the way I think about it. I'm sorry, I'm not exactly the normal kind of guy, you know. I'm from Israel. Sometimes I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun, I'd blow your head off."

http://op.50megs.com/hinn4.rm


7 posted on 08/13/2005 10:03:08 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
More and more of these tele evangelists are going to come under scrutiny -- few people have any idea what their assets or property holdings are. Senior citizens donate lands and properties to these ministries and instead of being sold for the "Church" they end up many times in the preacher's portfolio under the names of the deceased, under the names of relatives of under the names of dummy corporations. These men and women are hirelings -- instead of selling all to follow christ they fleece the flock of God.

I am in strong support of their holdings being scrutinized -- and when found having hidden assets for them to be fined the the Nth of the Law.

We could probably add 100 names to a list of these people that need so seriously be audited.

Rodney Howard Brown

Oral Roberts

Kenneth Hagan Ministries

Kenneth Copeland Ministries

8 posted on 08/13/2005 10:07:21 AM PDT by Rocketman
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To: DeweyCA
I miss this guy.

A true con man, and he let everyone know it.

The funny thing is, even though he's dead, his web site says you can still contact him.

What a showman!

9 posted on 08/13/2005 10:10:43 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Revolting cat!

Yep, that's just what I was thinking. My uncle has a bunch of Benny Hill videos and they're hilarious!


10 posted on 08/13/2005 10:10:57 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obligatory Farting Televangelist video link
11 posted on 08/13/2005 10:13:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Television corrupts.

Televangelism corrupts absolutely.


12 posted on 08/13/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Last I heard the "Bible Answer Man" Hank something or other, was being investigated for mail fraud. He told his flock the Post Office lost their mail, delivered it to the wrong address, and to mail in another contribution, to avoid calamity.

First off if anyone got a whole sack of mail addressed somewhere else, someone would be there in microseconds to retrieve it. I'm sure folks at the Post Office don't take to kindly to anyone suggesting they would deliver a big stack of mail to the wrong place, and not care about it.

13 posted on 08/13/2005 10:27:22 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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But wouldn't allowing access to only those with access cards scuttle Hinn's headquarters as being a place of public worship, and thereby its tax-exempt status?

LDS temples have restricted access. Not even all Mormons qualify for a temple recommend.

14 posted on 08/13/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hinn needs to be deported.


15 posted on 08/13/2005 10:31:00 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Why? Ask Jamie Gorelick)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I just went on your link to his website and found this quote:

"Adam was a super-being when God created him. I don't know whether people know this, but he was the first superman that really ever lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea--which means he used to fly. Of course, how can he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do what they do? The word 'dominion' in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you have dominion over a subject, that you do everything that subject does. In other words, that subject, if it does something you cannot do, you don't have dominion over it. I'll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to space. He was--with one thought he would be on the moon." (Benny Hinn"Praise the Lord" program on TBN, 26 December 1991. "Many Faces Of Benny Hinn DVD")

This is so wrong it is pathetic. Paul the Apostles tells us that Adam was "the first Adam." And he tells us that Christ was the second Adam -- Adam was no more a super man than Jesus Christ -- If Christ had by virtue of his God given powers come down to earth the face down the sin and the devil -- the devil would have cried: "Foul. You did it with divine power. So Christ put off his God hood and put on flesh and became the second Adam and in the flesh he defeated sin and the devil.

According to the Law of Moses which was written based on things in heaven to make an earthly pattern -- the lamb could not have any defect of blemish it could not be a giant (Read that as super lamb) or a dwarf -- Christ the lamb of God in order to be an offering for atonement's needed to be a lamb regular fleshly lamb.

So what is the Adam part -- Adam when he was created knew no sin but after the fall in the blood of the human race runs sin and death -- So God via the Holy Ghost overshadowing Mary conceived Christ . scripture says Adam was the son of God and likewise Christ was also the scone of God not being of the blood of his father.

16 posted on 08/13/2005 10:32:32 AM PDT by Rocketman
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To: skip_intro
A true con man, and he let everyone know it.

The smartest of the bunch. He used to make it very clear that contributions to him weren't tax deductable.

17 posted on 08/13/2005 10:32:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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..[Trinity president] [Ole] Anthony

Anthony is an interesting person, I'm not sure if he is a crackpot or one of the most enlightened people I've read about. Joe Bob Briggs (John Bloom) is a fringe member of his group, and he is now the publisher of The Door . The Trinity Foundation was named after the Bomb, not the God Head.

18 posted on 08/13/2005 10:49:18 AM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: skip_intro

Doc was refreshing. As for a con-man, I've not seen any of it, con men tend to keep you in the dark in order to manipulate you. Doc simply laid it out, you like what I'm saying keep the money coming and people did. I personally liked his no holds bar approach, loved his straight talk and his teaching was without compare for those who couldn't get past the cigars and his occasionally colorful expression well maybe they should read a little Jeremiah.
The idea that Christ is for losers and idiots is something Doc assailed with vigor and I think he succeeded and what I find that most dislike about him is that he didn't fit their mold and he spoke with authority with a voice that didn't sound like soft velvet and smell of funerary roses. I doubt the apostle Paul could find a place in today’s Christian world. As for the fraud Benny Hinn, I have little to say he is an example of the worst of Christian evangelicals but I'm sure he doesn't a better job spending the money he gets than the real elected thieves in the federal and state governments.


19 posted on 08/13/2005 10:53:19 AM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (Taking something that is not voluntarily given by the person who owns it is stealing.)
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To: skip_intro

Some interesting links:

http://www.internetmonk.com/cgi-bin/mt-comm.cgi?entry_id=19863

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/dr-gene-scott/

http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/05/25/news-stacy.php

http://www.drgenescott.org

http://member.newsguy.com/~sjames/home.htm

One has to love his admonition of the bureaucratic monkey band.

Never saw a preacher beat his monkey before this. ;-)

20 posted on 08/13/2005 11:31:49 AM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (Being unique and confident is not the definition of evil.)
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