Posted on 08/08/2005 6:50:27 AM PDT by The_Victor
I notice commander Collins mentioned Madagascar as a prime example of environmental degradation in her press onference today.
There are those who have seen environmental mismanagement like Commander Collins and myself and those like you who haven't got a clue but are willing to spout nonsense anyway.
My friend who has served 20 years in the US Army and was stationed in Germany at the Cold war and at the collapse of the Berlin Wall described to me the soot covered streets and buildings and visibly filthy air of East Germany, resulting from zero pollution controls. Free people don't want to live like that. I didn't mention dead bodies piled up but the Chernobyl environmental disaster comes to mind. Abandoned cities and towns, high radiation doses even outside of Russia. I've read descriptions of horribly polluted lakes and rivers in the communist countries. Whether or not dead bodies were piled up (and again I didn't say they were) free people do not choose to live that way. My point was that zero pollution regulation is in the despotic communist model, not the path Western capitalism has gone. Thank God. Every show of concern for the environment is not misguided and is not an attack on capitalism. Most environmental groups today are misguided, I readily acknowledge that and I regularly criticize them.
Environmentalists should be protesting daily in front of the Chinese Embassies if they're really serious.
I still read your stuff, just don't respond as much as I used to. Great article, R.J. is a very nice person, and I'm glad to see he called this self-important bitch on her baseless comments. What does she think she is, a member of the Film Actors Guild? (Team America humor)
well said
Of course he didn't have to laboriously type everything he had to say and neither did she. Maybe you can find the exchange on the free part of his site. Even though I doubt you care to explore either Rush's, or my points of view, the experience would do you good, even though I'm sure it wouldn't change your mind.
OH!!! THAT's PRICELESS!!!
I did hear Rush on this and the segment I caught emphasized that she was talking about Africa. So Rush was ridiculing the notion that the industrialized world is the only polluter. I would part company with Rush when he started saying that he has seen the Mississipi turn brown after a rainstorm, implying the astronaut's comment on deforestation in Madagascar could be an observation of something totally benign. I don't know anything about madagascar river flows, but it's certainly possible the astronaut knows something about what she was observing. Why do we have a need to ridicule the idea that madagascar might be pursuing some bad policies that are observable from speace? I don't see why a conservative has to assume Madagascar is well run and can't screw up its environment.
Since Rush is only right 98.7% of the time, this is one of those times he's clueless.
hmmm
Well... I guess I'm gonna hafta wrest my case! I have argument fatigue!!! (grin)
I betcha the erosion was only discovered after man was there, too!
As Rush pointed out... The arguments for all this overly exeuberant belief system beyond all reason is extremely seductive! Let's face it!! Religion is seductive!!! Mysticism in all it's forms is seductive. Even the prince of darkness is seductive!!!
If the conservative American has no sensible opinion on this matter be sure the "loony left" will prevail in the absence of comment. None of us want that.....:-)
Which is exactly why I believe strongly that they should be challenged at every opportunity. But when I hear/read conservatives on a conservative website adopting their trite supposed truisms and parroting their whacko assumptions about "what we are doing collectively to the planet," I become alarmed to the n'th degree!!!
You cannot challenge their deliberate misguidance by adopting their mannerisms and phraseology and chastising fellow conservatives for challenging them in any way... can ya?
By the way... Check out NaturalProcess.net and secure the book by the same name, written by Freeper Carry_Okie, if you want to see what a truly enlightened conservative recommends for what we SHOULD be doing collectively for the planet!!!
Sierra that's fine but I thought you said yesterday you were giving up on this particular debate with us. I say hug trees not girls! Only kidding.
You are so pleasant that you gave me a GOOD NATURED chuckle and toothy grin!!! God bless you for caring... We all do... really (to be continued... maybe)(it all depends on the mood I'm in)(at least I still have teeth)
Still have the old head firmly planted up the rectum I see. There's no hope for some. They believe what they believe despite all evidence to the contrary. Sorry you can't see past your nose.
I agree but intelligently and not with (albeit righteous)anger but facts and arguments that are lucid and logical, sorry to say so far you deny the obvious but promote a generic "ideological" perspective that is crude to say the least. You also keep annoyingly implying that anyone that improves on your comments is "lefty" please stop that. You are putting words in all our mouths.
"You cannot challenge their deliberate misguidance by adopting their mannerisms and phraseology"
Thats idiotic you have already been told several times now that no one here agrees with any left wing environmental policy stop being emotive.
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