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Submariners In Peril Saved By The 'Brotherhood Of The Sea'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-8-2005 | Nick Allen/Caroline Davies

Posted on 08/07/2005 6:01:41 PM PDT by blam

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Bravo to the Brits!
1 posted on 08/07/2005 6:01:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Hmmmm.....I heard the USA also lent a hand, as we sent something from McChord Air Base here......


2 posted on 08/07/2005 6:13:50 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: blam

Bump for outstanding news from a fellow sailor (though not a submariner --they are a special breed unto themselves).


3 posted on 08/07/2005 6:15:39 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: goodnesswins
"If we can't make effective rescue equipment ourselves, we need to buy it abroad."

Communism is definitely dead in Russia.

It will be a good day when it is dead in the USA.

4 posted on 08/07/2005 6:17:47 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: goodnesswins
Hmmmm.....I heard the USA also lent a hand, as we sent something from McChord Air Base here......

We were en route with equipment but it was the Royal Navy's show. They deserve the Bravo Zulus.

5 posted on 08/07/2005 6:17:52 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: blam

Happy for the Russians too. We're going to need them in the coming war against Islamo-fascism.


6 posted on 08/07/2005 6:21:38 PM PDT by pankot
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To: blam
'the submarine blew a ballast tank'

Can someone explain to me how this works causing the sub to float to the top? Does it mean that the sub dropped something of weight, causing the sub to be less heavy? Thanks from a sub illiterate freeper.
7 posted on 08/07/2005 6:21:43 PM PDT by rawhide
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"Can someone explain to me how this works causing the sub to float to the top? Does it mean that the sub dropped something of weight, causing the sub to be less heavy? Thanks from a sub illiterate freeper."

It's a tank with a hole in the bottom, when the sub submerges the air in the tank is vented out. When it is time to surface, compressed air is forced into the top of the tank which blows the water out the hole in the bottom, producing positive bouyancy.

8 posted on 08/07/2005 6:30:55 PM PDT by blam (It's impossible to bake on a snorkeling submarine in a rain storm)
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To: blam

I understand now, makes sense. Thanks.


9 posted on 08/07/2005 6:33:44 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Can someone explain to me how this works causing the sub to float to the top? Does it mean that the sub dropped something of weight, causing the sub to be less heavy? Thanks from a sub illiterate freeper.

That means that they pressurized a ballast tank with compressed air..., expelling the seawater and thus, making the sub rapidly rise to the surface. Ballast tanks are gradually filled with seawater to establish "neutral weight condition" relative to the depth at which the sub is operating.

10 posted on 08/07/2005 6:34:05 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Drew68
"(though not a submariner --they are a special breed unto themselves)."

It's amazing. After more than forty years, I can still remember the sequence (front to back) of the tanks on an old WW-2 diesel sub. N,N,M,M,F,S,A,F,F,M,M,C,E,N,N.

11 posted on 08/07/2005 6:34:45 PM PDT by blam (It's impossible to bake on a snorkeling submarine in a rain storm)
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To: ExSES

Thanks for your reply.


12 posted on 08/07/2005 6:35:39 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Rome2000
It will be a good day when it is dead in the USA.

It's getting stronger here.

Eminent domain and the no smoke in your own business.

The liberal elite commies know better than us common folk.

All they need is total control of the government and we're toast.

Then there will be no America to win our freedom back!

13 posted on 08/07/2005 6:37:13 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Drew68

Thank goodness someone made it there in time!

Great job--to our U.K. cousins!


14 posted on 08/07/2005 6:37:26 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: blam

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15 posted on 08/07/2005 6:38:31 PM PDT by StACase
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To: jb6

Thank you God for answered prayers.


16 posted on 08/07/2005 6:42:08 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Amen.


17 posted on 08/07/2005 6:48:53 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Drew68; goodnesswins

Roger that.

Drew68 is correct. We did our best, but it was the UK who got it done. We need to give all the congrats to the UK. There were three USN divers that helped in the sea while the UK piloted the ROV.

We don't have the full story why it took so long for us to get our equipment on the Russian ship and get to the site. Something got fouled up somewhere. Maybe we will hear why we could not get there in time in the coming days.

But for gosh sakes, goodness wins, give the UK the credit. That is an incredible rescue and the UK came through.


18 posted on 08/07/2005 6:51:59 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: blam
"If the country has modern submarines, then it should have effective rescue capabilities,"

Unfortunately, this is easier said than done.

Subs can get into very dangerous situations suddenly and rescue can be completely unfeasable. Some have suggested matching sub and rescue hatches, but the subs who wreck are not typically on the bottom in such a way as to present their rescue hatches for all to latch onto.

The dynamics of underwater speeds during ship sinkings will astonish anyone. The SSN Thresher was estimated to be going at least (a) 100 MPH, (b)50 MPH (c) 299 MPH (d) over 500 MPH when it hit bottom.

Your guess?

19 posted on 08/07/2005 7:12:00 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: blam

The Brits needed this moment to feel proud to be British. This will encourage them to fight to hang on to their heritage in the face of Muslim extremists and others who want them to feel bad about who they are and what they stand for. This moment is also important, because the Russian people (and the rest of the world)are being shown that the the Brits and the US are good people. God works in strange ways, doesn't he. :>)


20 posted on 08/07/2005 7:22:41 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers (Freud was wrong. It's all about "Roe v. Wade")
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