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Thousands protest ruling on Hawaii schools
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | 8/7/2005 | ALEXANDRE DA SILVA

Posted on 08/07/2005 12:31:18 PM PDT by dila813

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To: freepatriot32

BTTT!!!!!!!


161 posted on 08/08/2005 3:04:29 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: dila813

Sorry, Surfers. The laws that apply to 49 states also apply to the 50th. Private schools are not allowed to discriminate. The 5th Circus actually got this one right.


162 posted on 08/08/2005 3:07:57 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Smokin' Joe

This school has no treaty. Give it up


163 posted on 08/08/2005 7:09:31 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Shawndell Green

that be a changing


164 posted on 08/08/2005 7:29:59 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
No treaty? OK, try this.

From the School's website:

Kamehameha Schools is the largest private landowner in the state of Hawai‘i. Income generated from its residential, commercial and resort leases, as well as diverse investments, fund the schools’ maintenance and educational services. KS subsidizes a significant portion of the cost to educate every student. Families of students pay a modest tuition to cover the remaining cost, which is $2,170 for a high school day student and $4,040 for boarders. Special financial aid is available to students who demonstrate additional need.

In this instance no treaty. No federal money either.

Since when does the Federal Governnment have the right to dictate the policy of an independant institution on private land which uses only private money?

I suppose you have no problem with Kelo, either. or any of the host of recent laws which decide how private entities must operate their businesses in regard to smoking, etc.?

Actually, I am really sick of "giving up" basic rights. I don't think anyone should have to. If we do not defend the rights of others we will neither have nor deserve rights ourselves.

OTOH, if their rights are upheld, as a completely private entity, then any other group should have the right to decide admission to their entirely private, entirely privately funded school on whatever basis they choose.

Freedom of association includes the freedom to associate with whomever you please, or not associate with whomever you do not.

If I had the resources and decided to fund an entirely private school, using no federal or state money or facillities, (and decided that because I am bad with names and want to know the name of every student that regardless of any other factor, your christened name has to be "Joe" or you do not get in (last minute changeovers do not make the cut), I suppose you would say the Government has the right to meddle with my admissions policy and force me to let in any Tom, Dick, or Harry.

I do not agree.

What you are saying is just a tweak away from saying I have to let other people who want to live in my home live there, whether they are members of my family or not. That just because they are not related by blood or marriage does not give me the right to kick them out.

Both (my home and this school) are private, privately funded entities.

Public institutions should go by 'public' rules, we are all paying for that. Private entities pay their money and should be able to choose their own policy.

165 posted on 08/08/2005 10:05:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

even in a private school you are not allowed to say whites only or blacks only or whatever

It is illegal, end of discussion.

Don't like the law, change it.


166 posted on 08/08/2005 5:37:07 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
The government has no business dictating what is done with private property when those actions do not endanger anyone outside that property.

No matter what the d@mned law says, it is wrong, just as so much else that is "legal".

My home is a privately owned, privately funded institution. I have a right to say who comes in and who cannot. That school is a privately funded, privately owned institution also. If that right to allow or deny access does not extend to them then it is a miniscule step in jurisprudential logic to say I no longer have the right to allow or deny anyone access to my home--for any reason. NOR DO YOU.

If you want to end your 'discussion' as a doormat for the overstepping judiciary, enjoy it.

167 posted on 08/08/2005 9:05:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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