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Theft and violence on their minds [from illegal aliens]
The Arizona Daily Star ^ | 08.07.2005 | Anne Minard

Posted on 08/07/2005 6:43:46 AM PDT by Borax Queen

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Any of us who used to research, hike, bike, jog, bird-watch, take photographs, on and on, in the desert south of Tucson have noticed this. People have always been coming illegally, but in the last few years, it has started reaching dangerous extremes.
1 posted on 08/07/2005 6:43:47 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; nicmarlo; janetgreen

Ping to loss of American freedom out West.


2 posted on 08/07/2005 6:45:07 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen
Uh oh. Now we've got the environmentalist whackos concerned about illegals! It's almost over!

I've already suggested that the best solution to the illegals problem is to make Me-He-Co a communist country. No lib has EVER wanted ANYONE to escape from a communist country, and the LIBS would be demanding that we seal the border.

Then there is my son's solution: "Burning River of Gas."

3 posted on 08/07/2005 6:49:29 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Borax Queen

Places like Ajo and the tiny town of Why were sleepy little dots on the map. Now this. What a shame.


4 posted on 08/07/2005 6:51:15 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Sabatier

In a couple of years, when I retire, I'd planned to buy a small ranch in southern Arizona. With all this going on I've changed my mind about the location. Now I'm thinking about something near Phoenix! Hope that area's still safe.


5 posted on 08/07/2005 6:55:53 AM PDT by JLGALT
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To: LS

Good idea!

In the interest of disclosure, I should say up-front: I went to school with these people and we weren't whackos ... yet :) These are just ordinary researchers, no hidden agendas that I saw when I was there. This issue does cross bi-partisan lines except for the peaceniks who are out there placing water bottles for the illegals.

And, it irks me to no end to not be able to hike in some of the most gorgeous mountain ranges anymore. Well, you can, but you need to carry a gun and wade through dirty diapers. Why do we need to "adjust" and deal with this criminal invasion????


6 posted on 08/07/2005 6:56:22 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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Why do we need to "adjust" and deal with this criminal invasion????

What criminal invasion. Are you talking about those honorable, God loving, humble people just here to put food on their family's table?

I am to the point now where reading these threads puts me in a state of depression. I can't believe the people that advocate for these criminals while at the same time claiming to be conservatives who respect the rule of law.

7 posted on 08/07/2005 8:07:10 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: JLGALT
Nope, Phoenix isn't safe anymore. Where do you think the thieves and murders go when they cross the border?
Murders are so common now in Phoenix that it isn't news anymore... Most people have fortified their homes with steel doors and alarm systems because of "home invasions" by illegals. Not a good idea to go out after dark.
The jails are full of illegals not because of crossing the border (cops can't arrest them for crossing because our looney governor won't let them)but, for committing local crimes.
If you buy a house here best get one in a "gated" community.
8 posted on 08/07/2005 8:07:23 AM PDT by timdel33
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To: raybbr
I am to the point now where reading these threads puts me in a state of depression.

I'm sorry! Me too :(

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9 posted on 08/07/2005 8:13:02 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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Oh yes, it's the old myth that they just want a job in the local factory or the farm picking lettuce. They just want to be left alone. I left my last locale because I got sick of the local Mexicans that are overrunning the place treating my wife and I like crap.

When my wife and I would take our daily evening walks, the Mexicans fixing their cars or sitting having a few beers (both activites are performed on the front lawn, usually simultaneously) the whole group would just stop what they're doing and scowl and look like they wanted to fight while you passed by. At the store, they push past you and cuss under their breath in Spanish. I got sick of it.

If they really did just want to work a job, fit in with the local population, and be left alone most people wouldn't have a problem. But they roll in by the thousands, treat the long-time locals like total garbage, and treat the neighborhood like it's their personal dumpster.

10 posted on 08/07/2005 8:15:24 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


11 posted on 08/07/2005 8:25:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: LS

Tell your son that it would be far cheaper to hire a bunch of experienced fence installers from the former East(communist)Germany to build a fence & then hire more Border guards & simple orders catch someone climbing the fence you tell one time to stop if they don't you kill them. Gasoline is entirely to expensive to waste on a 1000 mile long flaming obstacle.


12 posted on 08/07/2005 8:25:50 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The state lawmakers passed laws against illegals getting free education, welfare,etc. But our criminal governor refused to sign it.
We passed Prop 200( 70% voted yes), to ban illegals from schools and voting. But the governor refuses to implement it.... It was illegals voting that put the witch in office.
Phoenix area has the worst schools in the nation. They are flooded with illegal bastards. They don't want to learn, but to steal and get free meals. Dangerous place for white kids.
School desegregation was a very bad mistake that will probably kill our nation...

The illegals are here because the DemoRATs, left wing crazies want them here to vote... Bush shares the blame also... Somebody better do something and soon. The low life politicians are giving away our country!!!!

Yeah, you are right illegals are nasty and vicious. Many illegals are from the jungles of South America... Killing means nothing to them... The native hispanics hate/fear them also...
13 posted on 08/07/2005 9:09:48 AM PDT by timdel33
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Where did you live that you experienced that?


14 posted on 08/07/2005 9:14:24 AM PDT by Klickitat
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To: Borax Queen
Ping to loss of American freedom out West.

Again and again, because of this and past administrations' refusal to enforce immigration laws and protect our border, Americans are forced to adjust their lives to the whims of lawbreakers. "Immigrants" are supposed to adjust to America, not the other way around.

America needs a strong third party who respects Americans and enforces American law rather than pandering to a third world nation.

There are some who remind us that the American/Canadian border is wide open, and illegal aliens are coming through there too. I have yet to read about violence, human smuggling or drug smuggling along that border.

15 posted on 08/07/2005 9:46:48 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: raybbr

I often feel the same. The truth is that these self-styled conservatives aren't conservatives at all. They're simply a new form of leftist who views the free market as a means of bringing about the multicultural utopia - while they and their cronies get rich off the deal. I think that the correct term for these folks would be corporatist neo-jacobins. Note also the typical leftist method of denouncing anyone who questions open borders as a "racist", followed by all of the usual platitudes and falsehoods about the invaders just doing work Americans won't do, how they are natural cultural conservatives, blah-blah-blah.

It's a big mistake to think that all leftists are opposed to capitalism. George Soros is the consumate capitalist, after all. What we are really witnessing is the evidence of Gramsci's principles in action - the marriage of large financial/corporate interests with leftist ideology (like all leftists, they love to use terms like democracy and equality). Such interests are working hand in glove with transnational bodies like the UN, the WTO, etc. to destroy what remains of traditional Western culture and the nations where it remains via treaties that undermine national sovreignty. In their particular utopian vision, the entire planet will become one big sweatshop - ruled by an unaccountable, untouchable elite through various sham "democracies" that have no real power. Sort of like Mexico on a global scale.


16 posted on 08/07/2005 10:26:15 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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ruled by an unaccountable, untouchable elite through various sham "democracies" that have no real power. Sort of like Mexico on a global scale.

Sort of like us right now! The elites could give a rat's ### about the peasants! Bush just says "let them eat cake" every time he pushes the "work Americans blah blah" new world order mantra.

17 posted on 08/07/2005 10:36:32 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

Look. The illegals are hurting scientific study of the environment. Save the whales! Send them packing!!


18 posted on 08/07/2005 11:08:13 AM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: Travis McGee

Sheesh! Is this the best you have to offer, Gonzalez? NADA?

Of 383,413 apprehensions so far this year, records checks on 28,900 of the people involved revealed criminal backgrounds. Because some arrestees are repeat border crossers, the proportion of criminals is actually higher than it looks, Garza said.


19 posted on 08/07/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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What can I say that hasn't already been said?

Close the bloody border!

20 posted on 08/07/2005 1:16:47 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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