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Hiroshima - Secret US Film - On TV 8/6
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Posted on 08/06/2005 8:09:15 AM PDT by aShepard

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To: calex59

As someone who had an opportunity immediately after the end of hostilities in the Jap instigated war, Tokyo was indeed leveled by the fire bombing and the good citizens of Japan were living in the subway tunnels. They richly deserved the fate visited upon them.


41 posted on 08/06/2005 9:31:59 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: Fresh Wind
Thank you! A very good point indeed - as you watch - think of this, not as war-time Japan, but your hometown. Think hard, real hard. What would you do, 'cause Dude, this is way beyond duct tape and plastic sheets.

Can't happen you say -- what if the crazies get the bomb from say.....Iran, Pakistan, etc, etc.

Lets pray this is never "coming to a neighborhood near you".
42 posted on 08/06/2005 9:55:04 AM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: aShepard
My local theater has an early showing of "The Great Raid" tonight. I thought it was is very appropriate for it to be shown on 6 August .... so sorry Sundance, I'm going to see what REAL men really do ... RLTW!
43 posted on 08/06/2005 10:08:17 AM PDT by Yasotay
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To: aShepard

Will it be as horrendous and terrifying as the mass graves discovered just two years ago in the deserts of Iraq?


44 posted on 08/06/2005 10:11:36 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: dts32041

On War Stories with Oliver North - FOX News will be showing "Bataan". It's on at 8 pm ET/5 pm PT


45 posted on 08/06/2005 10:11:47 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: aShepard

Imagine the horrors of our soldiers who died inside of the ships half-sunken in Pearl Harbor.

There were two (?) men who tapped and tapped, trying to get help, while trapped inside of the hull of one of the ships. I believe that they lived for a week; and the guards helplessly listened to them for the week before they died. We were unable to reach them.

WE DIDN'T START THAT WAR. We were innocent.

WE FINISHED THAT WAR.


46 posted on 08/06/2005 10:12:45 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: aShepard
I saw clips of this footage (I think) and the first thing that came to mind was thank god we had men leading the country who knew how to fight a war.

Tragic as it was, it was absolutely necessary, and forever domesticated the Japanese, and saved both American and Japanese lives.
47 posted on 08/06/2005 10:19:18 AM PDT by antaresequity
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


48 posted on 08/06/2005 10:21:08 AM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: aShepard

When are we going to have the videos of those inside the collapsing World Trade Center? Or the ones as they hit the ground after jumping?


49 posted on 08/06/2005 10:21:28 AM PDT by 1L
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To: CyberAnt
I thought he was doing this along with something about the Alamo scouts?
50 posted on 08/06/2005 10:21:50 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: aShepard

Sounds like a certain country learned a lesson they STILL haven't forgoten.


51 posted on 08/06/2005 10:22:14 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I got an idea, and idea so devious my head would explode if I even began to know what it was.)
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To: Oatka

Maybe Hiroshima was conceived on December 7, 1941, and was delivered on August 6, 1945.


52 posted on 08/06/2005 10:30:24 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: aShepard
US bishops mark anniversary of atomic bombings, condemn ‘total war’

53 posted on 08/06/2005 10:33:41 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: An Old Man
Those that do not want to end up as a shadow on the wall of some concrete building should learn to be nice to their fellow man.

From your lips to the ears of Osama Bin Ladin and Al Zarcowardly.

54 posted on 08/06/2005 10:34:02 AM PDT by Sal (Marxians reject logic and rationality in their unreasoning devotion to Marxianity.)
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55 posted on 08/06/2005 10:37:48 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Also, if it is not a staged movie, then it is the truth of what happened, if it is from September 1945. I don't have any fear seeing it, as uncomfortable or horrendous as it might be. I always want the truth, the whole truth.

I saw this movie in the service in the early '70's while in the process to become an officer that would use weapons with nuclear warheads. It is brutal, all war is brutal. It was shown to us cadets in the context of nuclear effects AND in the context of moral nuclear responsibility in that we should not take the loosening the "Devils Weapon" lightly.

However, what annoys me, is there were no Japanese Imperial Navy photographers photo-archiving the destruction of Pearl Harbor. The only movies we have are our own. In short, the Japanese of the time did not worry their conscience with the moral consequences of the methods that the Empire of Japan used in domination of the Pacific. The Americans, however, pondered the atom-bomb from an even higher authority than the President. In the end it was the best choice of only bad options.

The images in the film are gruesome, but then so are the screams of a wounded young American soldier being run over by a German tank as his guts are squished out by the tank treads. War really is hell and we should hate those to death who practice it for conquest.

56 posted on 08/06/2005 10:38:05 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: TexanToTheCore
The only problem is the Chinese authorities won't let it happen. It wouldn't jive with their political teachings.

The official line is that Mao drove out the Japanese and rid the country (or so they thought) of war and violence and hence is a national hero...

No mention in there of any bombs...if so, they are put as astericks in a footnote somewhere in the back of the book.

AKA Mao led a glorious revolution that took the country back and brought peace and autonomy back to China! (Thats all you need to know) Most people don't even recognize that it was the US that defeated Japan in WWII. That recognition would have TONS of implications, including recognizing that the KMT (at the time) did more to defend against the Japanese than the CCP ever thought of....

That means, gasp, that China would have to openly acknowledge that the US was THEIR saving grace and that Mao wasn't all that...

It ain't gonna happen.

57 posted on 08/06/2005 10:43:06 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: aShepard

Hopefully they will also show footage from the burned sailors at Pearl Harbor, Nanking victims, Baataan death march victims, and on and on and on.....
I just wish we would have been able to nuke them sooner,it would have saved even more American lives.
Thanks to the aircrews that dropped the bombs on Japan, you saved many lives.


58 posted on 08/06/2005 10:45:17 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: dts32041

I don't know about anything with the scouts, all I've seen is an ad for the show saying North's going to be talking to survivors of Bataan.


59 posted on 08/06/2005 10:47:39 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: SC DOC

excellent article!


60 posted on 08/06/2005 11:07:49 AM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS..and so do liberal judges.)
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