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With Gipper's game plan, Rudy can win it all
Chi Sun Times ^ | July 30, 2005 | THOMAS ROESER

Posted on 07/30/2005 5:55:36 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Sentis
The problem is that no purely rational, irreligious basis for a code of morals exists. At least, not an objective, fixed set of morals. In the absence of religion, only subjective morals are possible; that is, moral relativism.

I'm an agnostic, but I will not shrink from the logical consequences of rejecting religion.

161 posted on 07/30/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by stinkypew
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To: cyborg
He's also a gun grabber. Was Reagan a gun grabber?

The Gipper was staunchly pro-life. Is Rudy pro-life?



I'll point out for the record what you already well know my dear: the Gipper gameplan succeeded because of CONTENT, not strategy. A pro-abortion, anti-gun Ronald Reagan would have failed, and barely been noticed by history at all.

162 posted on 07/30/2005 10:18:40 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Dscott_FR

The red states are not going to vote for Hillery except Florida or Ohio. It is this simple the democrats are going to put her up she will win one of those states and all the blue states thus she wins. Even if she won florida which is a very good possibility Rudy will win New York which will offset the florida loss he will also Carry Pa which will upset the numbers even more. The democrats have done the math.


163 posted on 07/30/2005 10:19:20 AM PDT by Sentis
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To: Sentis

"Wow my posts have no hate at all they are realistic and of course you can't see past the blinder of yout irrationality to see that your belief system has been marginalized and that if you base your politics on your religious conveictions you are going to lose it is that simple. You will make the republican party losers because you can't shut your mouth for one election cycle "

Did you graduate from high school? Your reading comprehension isn't very good....I said in my last post that I'm not religious. Of course, I didn't expect you to read my post and understand it's implications because I know you're a knuckle dragging idiot.


You say your posts have no hate at all, yet in the link below you compare the "Religious right" to the taliban.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453719/posts?page=122#122



You keep repeating your points "if you would just shut up for one election cycle"......it also shows you're opposed to the first amendment.

You really are stupid! I encounter a lot of idiots on this site but as of late, you take the cake.


164 posted on 07/30/2005 10:20:22 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: motzman

"Rudy is a guy who focuses on the big issues of daily life, the main one being security. This is what we need for now and the forseeable future. Many may disagree on some of his "social" positions, but they really aren't that important in the scope of what a President is charged to do."

Amen. It astounds me that when we're facing the greatest threat in the history of our nation, so many people won't even consider the one guy who we know will take it to the bastards and never back down no matter what the left wing throws at him.


165 posted on 07/30/2005 10:21:23 AM PDT by MonaMars
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To: HitmanNY
Yours is the most sensible analysis of Giuliani's chances in 2008 that I have ever read, and that includes all of the mainstream media and blogosphere.

-ccm

166 posted on 07/30/2005 10:21:28 AM PDT by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: Sentis; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; Conspiracy Guy; NYC GOP Chick; MeekOneGOP; Fedora; ...
Republicans are on the verge of absolute control of this country but the Religious right could ruin it all by acting like the American Taliban at this juncture.

I will let the quote stand on it's own here.....
167 posted on 07/30/2005 10:21:59 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: cloud8
Do you guys think Rudy/Condi would be strong enough to take NY and California? If so...game, set, match.

It's hard to see into the future that far, but for now, YES.

New York would be a slam-dunk.
168 posted on 07/30/2005 10:22:08 AM PDT by motzman (Verizon, the Hitler of phone companies)
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To: stinkypew

I see the reality of the situation we live in an increasingly non-religious society if we want to salvage the religious values we have to do what democrats are really good at and reframe the debate. We can't use religion as the frame any longer it doesn't fly any longer.


169 posted on 07/30/2005 10:22:31 AM PDT by Sentis
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To: MikeinIraq

It's an asinine quote. I won't dignify it with a response.


170 posted on 07/30/2005 10:22:43 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Stellar Dendrite

That'll be enough name calling, please.


171 posted on 07/30/2005 10:23:31 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: Sentis

"You can stick to pure conservative candidates and lose the next election allowing the Democrats to regroup and survive or crush them in this country and force them into several smaller parties."

Guess which one they'll choose.


172 posted on 07/30/2005 10:23:31 AM PDT by MonaMars
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To: Sentis

It flies where I live.


173 posted on 07/30/2005 10:23:38 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: MonaMars
Amen. It astounds me that when we're facing the greatest threat in the history of our nation, so many people won't even consider the one guy who we know will take it to the bastards and never back down no matter what the left wing throws at him.

In fact, "the left" will have to be mucho-carefulo about throwing things at Rudy---he'll excoriate them!
174 posted on 07/30/2005 10:23:57 AM PDT by motzman (Verizon, the Hitler of phone companies)
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To: MikeinIraq

Yes thats a great quote from me. If the religious right wants to start annoucing religious litmus tests for Republican candidates then the Republicans are lost and we might as well let the democrats run the country.


175 posted on 07/30/2005 10:24:14 AM PDT by Sentis
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To: cloud8

Name calling? Like calling the American religious right the "Taliban?


176 posted on 07/30/2005 10:24:49 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

yeah it is.....


177 posted on 07/30/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: motzman

The left will love Rudy.


178 posted on 07/30/2005 10:25:46 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles; cloud8

"Name calling? Like calling the American religious right the "Taliban?"

Exactly. Only an DUmmie would make a comparison like that, that *is* a leftist talking point.


179 posted on 07/30/2005 10:25:47 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Sentis
Yes thats a great quote from me. If the religious right wants to start annoucing religious litmus tests for Republican candidates then the Republicans are lost and we might as well let the democrats run the country.

How do I respond to this latest leftist BS from you WITHOUT being banned myself.....???
180 posted on 07/30/2005 10:26:47 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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