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Bush Wins CAFTA But Loses Wider War
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| 07.29.05
Posted on 07/29/2005 7:57:25 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Before the treaty comes into effect, ratification by Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica is necessary, and this is not guaranteed.
To: hedgetrimmer
It is amazing how often Bush wins but is still consider in a worse spot than before.
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posted on
07/29/2005 7:58:15 AM PDT
by
Porterville
(Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
To: hedgetrimmer
Talk about not being equally yoked....
imo
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posted on
07/29/2005 7:58:34 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(The state always has solutions to the problems it creates...more freedom will never be a solution)
To: hedgetrimmer
I think the Pubbies just handed the Executive branch back to the RATs in 2008 - and maybe the House in 2006 ...
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:00:02 AM PDT
by
11th_VA
(Thanks CAFTA - I'm voting 3rd Party)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
Bleh.
All we can hope for now is that the other countries shoot down CAFTA.
But still, this is bad. When the ability to change your fate is no longer in your own hands, that's a bad sign.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:01:13 AM PDT
by
Ultra Sonic 007
(Freepmail me to join the 'Rush Limbaugh Live' ping list!)
To: 11th_VA
In the 2008 election no one will remember CAFTA. The election debates will all be about some scandal from the Vietnam era which involves one or both of the candidates.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:01:22 AM PDT
by
lOKKI
(You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
When the ability to change your fate is no longer in your own hands, that's a bad sign.
Which is precisely why most Americans oppose "free trade" and "hemispheric integration".
To: lOKKI
In the 2008 election no one will remember CAFTA. Bullcocky - We'll have two new conservative SC Justices by then. They'll be no reason for people like me (who want to see immigration laws enforced) to vote for either of the major parties.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:04:44 AM PDT
by
11th_VA
(Thanks CAFTA - I'm voting 3rd Party)
To: lOKKI
Probably true to form for our Pols.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:05:06 AM PDT
by
nygoose
To: lOKKI; jpsb; Afronaut; Dat Mon; Happy2BMe; Justanobody
In the 2008 election no one will remember CAFTA
Not if I can help it!
To: 11th_VA
Based on what I have read, I like CAFTA. It essentially lowers or removes tarrifs on American imports from other countries. We have for a long time kept tarrifs low on foreing imports to promote low cost and stay inflation for American Consumers. Some of the fringe stuff in CAFTA is weak.
What is the dissenting position?
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:08:42 AM PDT
by
Tenacious 1
(Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
To: 11th_VA
"I think the Pubbies just handed the Executive branch back to the RATs in 2008 - and maybe the House in 2006 ..."
It's starting to look like it's intentional.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:08:52 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
To: 11th_VA
I don't think you understand what this treaty does, or maybe you do and I don't. My understanding is this involves 7 countries all of whom have tariffs on goods they import from us. We have no tariffs on the goods we import from them. This treaty will cause the tariffs on the goods they import from us to disappear, making them less expensive and thereby increasing demand on their side and an increase in manufacturing (supply) on our side.
This appears to be a win situation for us and aside from the unions whining that it will cost jobs, for which there is no proof, there seems no down side.
Explain where I am wrong and how or why this will impact on the elections of '06 & '08
To: hedgetrimmer
"mounting disarray?"
My view is that our trade policy is finally beginning to gel. No sense in getting too upset about international trade. The economy is in high gear. I don't hear a "giant sucking noise."
To: Eagles Talon IV
"This appears to be a win situation for us and aside from the unions whining that it will cost jobs, for which there is no proof, there seems no down side.
Explain where I am wrong and how or why this will impact on the elections of '06 & '08"
I second this thought and would also like to understand the argument against CAFTA.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:11:15 AM PDT
by
Tenacious 1
(Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
To: hedgetrimmer
Regardless of how one feels about CAFTA, the idea that any "victory" that is opposed by the other party is somehow less than a victory is silly.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:11:58 AM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: hedgetrimmer
PNTR maybe a suicide belt strapped around the GOP by Clinton as he left office.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:12:47 AM PDT
by
ex-snook
(Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
Comment #18 Removed by Moderator
To: Rodney King
Winning for the sake of winning isn't worth much if it costs you your ideals.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:13:45 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
To: Eagles Talon IV; 11th_VA; cripplecreek
11th and cripple are some of the resident malcontents here on FR.
Bush having a hangnail to them means the Pubbies lose in 08.
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posted on
07/29/2005 8:15:08 AM PDT
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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