Israel plans triple-fencing of Gaza after pullout

Reuters ^ | 7-28-05

[SJackson]

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[w6ai5q37b]

Since our foreign aid money is helping to pay for this triple-fencing, maybe some money should be used to triple-fence our own southern border.

[Dolphan]

Didn't the Israeli's ask the US to pay for the settlement withdrawl?

Did we agree?

[Sabramerican]

Echoing Palestinian concerns, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said last week

The policy of "Israel's best friend ever" is to echo the "Palestinians".

[ncountylee]

Israeli measures could keep Gaza sealed up like a giant prison.

Memo to President and Congress:

We, the Citizens, demand one also. OK, skip the machine guns but pre-wire for expansion if needed.

[Sabramerican]

Israel's new National Bird?

[SJackson]

US Aid for the Expulsion May Backfire on Israel

[colorado tanker]

Good fences make good neighbors.

[SJackson]

Memo to President and Congress: We, the Citizens, demand one also. OK, skip the machine guns but pre-wire for expansion if needed.

We already have a perfectly good fence :<(

[Inyokern]

Israel plans triple-fencing of Gaza after pullout

No bias in that title, eh?

[untrained skeptic]

"Since our foreign aid money is helping to pay for this triple-fencing, maybe some money should be used to triple-fence our own southern border."

Triple fencing our southern border would cost a bit more than "some money".

Also just a fence isn't of much use. You need all the sensors and patrols as well. Fences by themselves just slow people down a bit.

Surveillance equipment and sensors will require expensive maintenance in areas far from civilization. It's a lot of area to patrol as well.

A fence has some benefit in some areas, but what does it really give us that the remote surveillance we're deploying? Wouldn't the money be better spent on manpower to respond when the surveillance equipment detects people than building huge fences?

[untrained skeptic]

"The army insists that, unlike Israel's internationally condemned West Bank barrier, the new project will not cut into Palestinian land. But the Palestinian Authority said such Israeli measures could keep Gaza sealed up like a giant prison."

Israel does not surround Gaza. A wall between Gaza and Israel cannot imprision people in Gaza.

""Instead of building bridges with the Palestinians, Israel insists on building walls and fences of suffocation," said Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat."

It's kind of hard to build bridges with people who's professed goal it the extermination of your race.

You're options are to keep them from harming you by keeping them away, or killing them. Israel has shown amazing restraint by continuing to go with the first option despite the continued attacks on their people.

"The World Court has declared Israel's West Bank barrier illegal for intruding on occupied land. Israel says the planned 600-km (370-mile)-long structure keeps out suicide bombers. Palestinians call it a grab for land they claim for a state."

The World Court is a bad joke. It has no real authority over Israel. It condemns Israel for building a defensive structure partially on land captured in a war in which they we defending themselves from an invading army. At the same time they are silent on the acts of terrorism against the civilian population of Israel and the support of the terrorist committing the atrocities by other countries in the Middle East.

[Tarpon]

When they get done, would they come over here and put up a 23 foot high concrete fence along the U.S. - Mexico border? That would sure be more effective than the 4 strands of barbed wire we have now.

Got to hand it to the Israelis, they know how to do fences.

[anotherview]

> Didn't the Israeli's ask the US to pay for the settlement
> withdrawl?

Help pay a portion, yes.

> Did we agree?

No

[anotherview]

""Instead of building bridges with the Palestinians, Israel insists on building walls and fences of suffocation," said Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat."

To echo your point, see this thread.

[KarlInOhio]

But the Palestinian Authority said such Israeli measures could keep Gaza sealed up like a giant prison.

If you act like a million mad dogs, consider yourselves lucky if you only get kenneled.

[dinasour]

Fences by themselves just slow people down a bit.

Mine fields in between the fences will slow them down a bit more.

[azhenfud]

Triple fencing our southern border would cost a bit more than "some money".

Illegal aliens reportedly cost Americans $41 billion annually. A four lane highway costs about $13 million/mile. If we invest the same amount we'd spend on a four lane highway to construct and secure 2000 miles of the southern border, it'd pay for itself in eight months.

Eight months.

Any business person who's worth one single damn knows an investment that'll pay for itself in under a year is a no brainer. A border barrier couldn't be built fast enough if I were calling the shots.

[dinasour]

could keep Gaza sealed up like a giant prison.

The correct analogy is "a giant insane asylum for criminal psychopaths".