Tancredo just playing to his faithful fans

Rocky Mountain News ^ | July 26, 2005 | Mike Littwin

[international american]

They will show up sooner or later :)

[hosepipe]

[ In other words, you will not take me at my word, but feel free to invent a worldview for me which I do not hold. ]

Thats what I did, take you, at your word..

Me being cynical, have no love for Count Von Bushula and the BushBats... who constantly reminds me that the number of the day is zero and the letter of the day is blank..

Thats not what I elected him for..

[NRA1995]

Nice combover

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

The Tancredo option would make Muhammad a liar:

KORAN [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque [Mecca, the Kaaba] after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[Czar]

Especially the quislings...

[Jonah Johansen]

Tancredo is using clumsy phrasing to express a non-trivial, very serious and important point.

It is very dangerous to assume that country which is the victim of a nucleur attack will repsond 'rationally" or as "expected" The anti-nuke protesters were dead wrong about just about everything except when they questioned the notion of "limited" nucleur war. The scale and horror of a nucleur attack is extreme.

[hosepipe]

[ Especially the quislings... ]

All RINOs and most democrats are quislings..
A more than a few democrats are also insane..
They don't know what they are doing..

[Ben Ficklin]

Has anyone here ever contributed to Tancredo's Team America PAC?

[Czar]

"All RINOs, [liberals, many moderates] and most democrats are quislings..."

If I may offer a suggestion...

[Ace Backwords]

I don't know hardly anything about Tancredo except that he's the only semi-legitimate presidential candidate to take a strong stand against illegal immigration. Our insane level of Mass Immigration is the biggest single threat to whatever quality of living we have left in America. If you want to see this country turned into one more 3rd World cesspool right before your eyes, then go ahead and mock Tancredo. About 15 years ago I switched from a lifelong liberal Democrat to a Republic so I could vote for Pat Buchanan, almost entirely because of his strong position on immigration. I suspect theres a lot of people like me out there. Though that dunce Bush has ruined whatever constitiancy there was in the Republic party by his shameless sucking-up to the so-called "Latino vote." Good riddance to Bush. And lets only hope he gets booted off the stage before he ruins whats left of the party.

[Czar]

Oh my. You have committed so many sins in such a brief paragraph.

First, you need to know the mere whisper of the names Buchanan and Tancredo will bring the FR resident quisling contingent running, ready to dogpile you as an anti-illegal alien redneck/goober.

Then, you endanger yourself further by criticizing everyone's favorite "conservative", President Bush. That, unfortunately for you, will bring on the kool-aid guzzling GOP Big Tent RINOs/Liberals/Moderates to dump all over you.

You need to get yourself measured for a flame retardant suit, real soon. Like right now...

[Ace Backwords]

Fortunately, you're wrong. Bush is a lame duck and almost nobody is running to defend his lame-brained notions any more. Even most of the hardcore Republicans have gotten disgusted with that dunce Bush, and just hope he quietly slithers away before he inflicts any more damage on the Republican party. Just take a survey. You'll find that immigration is one of the most important issues to Republicans. And Bush has alienated almost ALL of them. Bye bye, Bush leaguer.

[Czar]

Guess I should have added a sarcasm tag.

[Ace Backwords]

Hi Czar. Yeah, I know you were being sarcastic. But would you agree that Bush's "supporters" are getting very quiet these days? How many people really want to stand next to this dunce and go down with his sinking shit. Hasn't he embarrassed you enough already? His latest stupidity: He met with House Republicans yesterday in a closed-door meeting and urged them to pass his "guest worker" (i.e. "amnesty-for-20-million-illegal-immigrants") bill by this Fall. On top of that, he said he wants even MORE legal immigration. Again I ask you faithful Republicans out there: Do you still stand with this utter moron George W. Bush?

[Czar]

You seem to have me confused with the "Republican faithful".

Let me spell it out. I am a hard right rudder conservative. Although I think Bush is a good man with sincere intentions, I find that I disagree with him and the Republican leadership on damned near everything. So, no, I'm not one of the GOP lemmings. There are plenty of those around here though. Just observe--you'll see who they are soon enough.

[Ace Backwords]

No, I wasn't confusing you with the "Republican faithful." You seem like a REAL conservative, unlike this stinking liberal George W. Bush, and the lemmings that follow him unquestioningly, just because he has "Republican" after his name. I was addressing the "Republican faithful" in my previous post. I still say theres been a major shift since the last elections, and that that vast majority of Republicans are REAL conservatives like you, and are moving away from this fake G. W. in droves.

[shebacal]

Has anyone here ever contributed to Tancredo's Team America PAC?

Yes, and will continue to do so. And vote for him if he should run for President.

[Ace Backwords]

See what I mean, Czar. Not a peep of protest from all the Bushies on this site. They've abandoned Bush like rats-fleeing-from-a-sinking-ship. I feel sorry for all the good, decent conservatives who were betrayed by this liberal Bush. About the only thing "conservative" about Bush is his stand on abortion, but abortion is about number 100 on my list of priorities. And look at the hopeless mess he dragged us into in Iraq, and under false pretenses no less (does anybody still remember "weapons of mass destruction"?). The country of Iraq has been a hopeless mess for centuries. It will continue to be a hopeless mess, no matter how many BILLIONS of dollars Bush wastes invading it, or however many American lives are lost defending it, or whatever stupid piece of paper Constitution he writes up to try and organize these hopelessly barbaric people. Iraq will be just as much a hopeless mess after we leave, if not moreso. Thats just the facts, people. You can figure that out now, or later. Theres no third option. Meanwhile, this dunce Bush spends BILLIONSs to secure Iraq's border, while at least 40 million illegal immigrants have invaded our OWN border. Which Bush has done nothing -- NOTHING!! -- to prevent. In fact, his "solution" is to give amnesty to these alien invaders. Bush has got to go. Even the Bushies on this site have realized that, sadly.

[Czar]

I do not want my position on Bush to be misunderstood. I like and respect the President, and I believe him to be sincere and with good intentions.

Having said that, I no longer have any illusions about him being a conservative. That's simply what he ran on. Unfortunately, the record he has compiled to date, though not entirely without some conservative progress, has been largely that of a moderate at best (and I am being charitable here)--some would argue a liberal. He has been a disappointment to me and to all loyal American conservatives. He is going to be leaving behind a GOP with virtually no conservative support in the years ahead.

[COEXERJ145]

Has anyone here ever contributed to Tancredo's Team America PAC?

Probably most of the morons on Liberty Post and the rest of the 1-percenters.