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America's Hiroshima: America's Date with Disaster - (take this seriously!
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | JULY 26, 2005 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Burr5
really fumbled and dodged when confronted with the illogic of his proposition

I'd say it's worth investigating, but I really don't think that they're here. Also, if they're Soviet-era nukes, they've probably degraded to a point as to be unusable by now. Nukes are hi-maintenance toys.

I don't doubt that Osama would love to nuke us, but as you said, why hijack airplanes when he could just blow up 4 cities? I'll admit that it stays on my mind a bit. If they're for real and they go off on Friday it'll probably kill me... I'll be in Chicago all day. :p
221 posted on 07/27/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: Strategerist
it's impossible to nuke the world's Moslems without killing tens of millions of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. The world's Islamic population doesn't live completely concentrated in small areas isolated so that fallout doesn't reach anyone else.

You don't seem to know any more about military matters and fallout than you do about muslims.
Hard to find something correct in any of your last few posts.

Specifically how do you suppose we managed to set off hundreds of nukes in Nevada without killing off half of our population?

One of the unexpected benefits of the sand maggots is that they don't tolerate other religions or ethnicities. They simply do not play well with others...
I think the middle east is 99.9% muslims/arabs. THose are the only ones we need to address, and the fallout can be kept to a minimum.

Where muslims have insinuated themselves into a population of non-muslims, the U.S. will not have to even think about dealing with them. They will be dealt with in non-nuclear ways by the locals.

Any other reasons you can think of why it's not possible"?

222 posted on 07/27/2005 4:34:21 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: COEXERJ145

why is the BS constantly being posted here.


223 posted on 07/27/2005 4:35:43 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: shezza

""The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children.""


this is such nonesense. No place in Amerca has a population ratio of 50% under age 18


224 posted on 07/27/2005 4:37:08 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: injin

I dont support Tancredo...he is a nut becasue he was responding to this suitcase nuke story and he believes it


225 posted on 07/27/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: A CA Guy

I don't think the "stategerist" [sic] is older than 12, and if he knew what a ring-laser is I would have a heart attack...


226 posted on 07/27/2005 4:43:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I suspect Ted Kennedy would be one of the earliest unfortunate victims of any such sad event.


227 posted on 07/27/2005 4:45:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: garjog
I agree that we should retaliate. But, there are one billion Muslims spread all over the place. How could we kill them all?

Is it the juvenile mind that always thinks in terms of all or none?
We just hit the heavy concentrations initially, and mop up the remainder later if necessary.

Since the exact number necessary is entirely up to them, I suspect a LOT less than 100%...

228 posted on 07/27/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: calenel
You didn't prove any of these claims on the other thread which I am cross-linking for the benefit of the people on this thread.

Please give us your qualifications to understand the proof if it were given to you.

Only then can we judge.

Your level of "proof" might be right up there with a failure to grasp the meaning of "is".

229 posted on 07/27/2005 4:53:45 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: slowhandluke
"The point about the bombs in the US won't be to win the war, or even start the war, but to declare the war over, to present us with a severe setback when we are prevented from any response by lack of allies, and pressure from our non-allies to not respond."

Your entire post makes a lot of sense, but it presumes too much. For one thing, it assumes our President and other leaders will be cowards, willing to see their nation going up in smoke without striking back due to foreign 'pressure'. It also presumes that these barbarians are patient to the extreme, and have a long term strategy to conquer the world. While I believe they'd love to conquer the earth, I already see the world fighting back against them; even in Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan, where we see Muslims killing off thousands of their more extreme brethren.

The Philippines are not tolerating their muslim extremists, nor is Thailand or China. They fight back with crushing blows. From all appearances, it even seems the Islamofacists in Iran are beginning to lose power to the people, (who remember better days). Turkey is a secular government that won't tolerate a theocracy and Africa is.... well, as you said, just Africa.

I don't believe for a moment that people like Osama bin Laden and al Zarqawi would 'sit on' nuclear bombs until they felt they had already won the war and then use them as an "announcement" that it was over. These people are cold-blooded killers, and while not stupid they are quite insane, their minds swallowed up by their sick religion and their hearts turned to stone by their hatred. THEY WILL LOSE, and Christ The King will reign.

230 posted on 07/27/2005 4:55:37 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Ubran II, 1097AD)
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To: CHARLITE

If a nuke is set off in this country, islam better bend over and put it's head between it's legs and kiss it's ass goodbye!

Love,
Jarhead


231 posted on 07/27/2005 4:56:28 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: boris
You didn't prove any of these claims on the other thread which I am cross-linking for the benefit of the people on this thread.

Things, Boris, they are a-changing.

The face of islam is becoming clearer, and the tolerance of the skeptics falling away...

232 posted on 07/27/2005 5:00:13 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: CHARLITE
We're talking about the Patty Murray-Barbara Boxer-Maxine Watters-Sheila McKinney-Michael Moore-George Soros wing of the liberal Democrat party! Just imagine what would occur, if these people ever got back into power!

I could describe an alternative scenario, but decided I better not.

233 posted on 07/27/2005 5:03:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Hardly anybody can get their minds around an explosion 1,000 X Hiroshima bomb.

But still most of the ignorant tend to overestimate the extent of the damage. By a whole bunch.

234 posted on 07/27/2005 5:05:21 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: xsrdx
Israel would be the first target, in any case.

I doubt it. Israel is small, but not small enough to prevent the Samson Option. And in Israel, the debate is already past.

235 posted on 07/27/2005 5:09:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Valin
Don't you pay attention?

We abandoned that dead horse days ago. Talk to Dane...

236 posted on 07/27/2005 5:14:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: atlanta67
I dont support Tancredo...he is a nut becasue he was responding to this suitcase nuke story and he believes it

Are you aware of what a "hypothetical" is?

No belief is necessary in any manner shape or form.

For instance, if you were Jabba the Hutt, would Babs "rubber check" Boxer date you?

237 posted on 07/27/2005 5:28:13 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961
It's all in how the damage is intended. It can be pretty bad, if wiping out everything in a city is what you want. However, that's militarily useless, I would think, so the blasts are designed to do closer, more intense damage.

You don't want to be within 30 miles of a "Castle Bravo" 15 megaton firecracker. At optimum blast height, that distance left islands burnt to a crisp before the shock wave blew the burning trees out to sea.

238 posted on 07/27/2005 5:29:55 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty
You don't want to be within 30 miles of a "Castle Bravo" 15 megaton firecracker. At optimum blast height, that distance left islands burnt to a crisp before the shock wave blew the burning trees out to sea.

I would not want to be within 100 miles. But at that distance it would be a low rumble and little else, either physically or symbolically.

239 posted on 07/27/2005 5:34:57 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: atlanta67
why is the BS constantly being posted here.

Various reasons

Some people think they're "informing" the public of a "threat" (which of course exists mostly in the mind of Farah)

Others enjoy fear mongering (just like Farah)

Still some want it to happen so they can blame it on President Bush (which is IMHO what Farah is really hoping for)

240 posted on 07/27/2005 5:53:22 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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