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1 posted on 07/23/2005 6:13:24 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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Tancredo is right.

MAD requires that the islamo-fascists have something to worry about. I wouldn't be surprised if Dingell and Tancredo aren't having this argument at the behest of the NCA in deep background.

It is keeping highly publicized that which would otherwise have been a news blurb that disappeared.

We want the fascists to worry.


58 posted on 07/23/2005 6:46:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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Dingell lives in a heavy Muslim area.


61 posted on 07/23/2005 6:47:14 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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Dingell has now been a "useful idiot" in two wars, the Cold War and now the War on Islamic terrorists.
66 posted on 07/23/2005 6:50:16 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Islam has a long history of "taking out" the holy sites of other religions--whether it's tearing it down, blowing it up, or building a mosque on top.


78 posted on 07/23/2005 6:58:29 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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Dingell-berry should read the Koran and look at the shape of the real world once in a while.


79 posted on 07/23/2005 6:58:54 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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And they wonder why Osama endorses democrats.

The statement was we will bomb holy sites IF we got hit with nuclear attacks.

I think GWB should make it clear that we will level all muslim countries IF we got hit with nukes or other WMDs. This should be official policy as was with the soviets.

If we make this 100% clear the islamonazis will think twice before pressing that button. They will know that nuking NYC will cause hundreds of millions of their brothers to meet the same fate.

Remember, 99% of Russians did not want to nuke anybody. But it was necessary to make that threat with MAD to stop the crazy 1%. Sometimes you have to stand up and show teeth.

"carry a big stick"

87 posted on 07/23/2005 7:08:30 PM PDT by varyouga
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Congressman John D. Dingell , as well as a lot of other people are idiots.

Tancredo was asked a "what if" question and he gave a good answer.

If muslims nuke one of our cities and we don't strike back hard,I think a lot of "Dingells" will be in trouble.


120 posted on 07/23/2005 7:38:49 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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Dems would perform homosexual oral sex on an Islamist before they would lift a hand in anger or defense of country!


131 posted on 07/23/2005 7:48:09 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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Is this the DINGELL of Dingell/Norwood that al gore so confidently asked about during the debates? Ha,ha.ha.ha,


133 posted on 07/23/2005 7:55:28 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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Tancredo's remarks are like the "Baby Ruth" in the pool. The bottom line is that the only thing Islamofacists(Nazis, Communists, despots & tyrants alike) understand is threat of force & the application thereof. If we have learned anything in the 20th century , it is the words & actions of Theodore Rex & Ronaldus Maximus hold true. Say what you mean, mean what you say, & act when necessary with total commitment and forethought. If you are going to threaten the destruction of Mecca or any other Moslem Holy Places then you better damn well understand the possible consequences if you follow through. However, there is nothing wrong with letting the enemy think that you just might exact the most horrific retribution as a response to a WMD attack. Don't forget, these evil bastards intend to destroy us all.
134 posted on 07/23/2005 7:55:51 PM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitor")
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shows Congressman Tancredo has no understanding of the true nature of Islam and the peaceful Muslims...

You'd think that if Dingell had any brains at all, he'd know enough not to interfere when Tancredo is making a fool of himself. But the reality is that Dingell is playing up to his base. Maybe it's his base that has no brains at all.

138 posted on 07/23/2005 8:14:33 PM PDT by Brilliant
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lets send Dangle to Ramadi to open up a bagel shop


143 posted on 07/23/2005 8:29:28 PM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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boy is Dingell stupid.


144 posted on 07/23/2005 8:31:55 PM PDT by marty60
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My attack against Islam is just to read from their own "holy" books:

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque [Mecca] after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise. (NOTE: Tancredo option would make Muhammad a liar.)
KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight wi the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
149 posted on 07/23/2005 8:37:46 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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Let's not forget that they shot the Pope. It was spun to make folks believe that agca was a right wing turk. He was an islamic funamentalist.


160 posted on 07/23/2005 9:33:16 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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Dingell has the makings of a fine dhimmi, which is understandable when the Muslim call to prayer rings out over Michigan cities now. (Christian churches have had to stop playing hymns on their carrilons, of course.) Dems/Dhims are just looking for the terrorist vote.


178 posted on 07/24/2005 4:53:47 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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You don't think that Dingell has any understanding of Islam? I
bet he has a real good understanding and I also bet that he benfits financially from that understanding. Only a wild guess, but ever since I stumbled across the information on Hagel being tied to Islamic donors, I expect that every politician who speaks out on the side of the terrorists is similarly invested.


182 posted on 07/24/2005 8:38:07 AM PDT by Eva
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Dingy's donors: http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/campaigns/john_d_dingell.asp


186 posted on 07/24/2005 9:12:17 AM PDT by PGalt
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