Posted on 07/23/2005 9:37:00 AM PDT by Willie Green
Back when the senior Bush was in office pushing NAFTA, the owner of my factory constantly warned us that it would cost jobs.
That factory is closed now BTW.
Bush senior also wanted a "new world order." Quote Unquote.
Does this mean that DeFazio (ACU Lifetime = 14) is becoming a Buchananite?
Now that we are clear about what you don't want, what precisely do you want?
Do you or anyone you know of have an alternative?
Seems that little item is always missing in these 'Hate Bush" treatises.
Response: Absolutely!
Comment: "In declining States the leadership intuitively choses the most harmful course of action..."-A Great Historian 1888.
On the History Channel not long ago, they were talking about Hadrian's Wall, and said at the end the barbarians were so desperate to have what Rome represented that they broke the wall down. That's exactly what's going on at our southern border. Rather than stay home and fix things, they want instant gratification. Cross the border and it's yours. Even better, turn it into MegaMexico or MegaEverywherelseSouth. They don't get it that the cultural, social mindset that dooms Mexico and points south will wreck the US, and if they did understand, they wouldn't care.
Yes, CAFTA will flop, for the same reasons NAFTA did. So what do we do? Build Hadrian's Wall? If so, we'd better start now and fortify it.
When CAFTA flops, they'll demand we think up something else to bail them out.
since the employment rate is much lower now than before NAFTA was passed... I have no idea how we have somehow lost 800,000 jobs.
Obviously some people who lacked the ability to compete globally were sheltered behind tariff barriers.
These anti-NAFTA bozos think that the American customer owes them a living and should be forced to pay for higher priced goods.
I'm sure people said the same things about Irish immigrants.
And if the result is higher imports of cheaper goods, isn't that good for our economy and the American consumer? Also, as awful as trade deficits sound, no one has yet proven a harmful long-term effect. An example I read (Thomas Sowell perhaps?) is that, in my personal economy, I run a trade-deficit with my grocer (I buy more from him than he does from me). Is that such a bad thing?
"Global Competition" is a race to the bottom. It is a code word for "Who will work the cheapest?" Just ask the Mexicans who took our jobs away because they were cheap and compliant (read subjugated*) and have now lost theirs to the Chinese who are even cheaper and more compliant.
*Check out the Mexican labor battles in the cities or the countryside. The ringleaders always seem to be among those "accidentally" killed in the melee.
We need to know more about your "personal economy" to answer that.
But if you're following Dubya's example, then you obtain your money by gradually mortgaging your home to your grocer. Sooner or later, he'll own the whole thing and your hungry butt will be tossed out on the street. Yes, I would call that a bad thing.
lost 800,000 jobs
manufacturing
gained
Home Depot, Lowes, Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, Wendys.....
Really? Over what time frame?
They were a little off. The actual result was a net loss of nearly 880,000 U.S. jobs, including more than 12,000 in Oregon. Looking at the numbers beyond NAFTA, Oregon has lost 40,000 jobs due to failed trade policies since 1994.
Really? Over what time frame? Were the jobs lost the day NAFTA passed? A year later? 5 years later?
CAFTA will be more of the same.
Yeah, cause the predictions of doom and gloom were so correct last time. LOL!!
Obviously some people who didn't want to make 23 cents a week and eat rice 6 days a week to compete globally were sheltered behind tariff barriers.
Your employer runs a huge trade deficit with you.
The benefits of free trade is not matter of debate. Saying that trade is bad is like saying the sky is not blue, that the sun does not rise in the east and set in the west.
Go take a decent economics class if you don't know or understand why trade is good.
There are some legitimate concerns about sovereignty, but there is no valid argument against free trade except for environmental issues.
"Global Competition" is a race to the bottom. It is a code word for "Who will work the cheapest?"
You sound like a communist. Competition is a good thing-it lowers prices and improves quality.
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