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Scott Gardner didn't have to die
Charlotte Observer ^ | 7/20/2005 | Jim Morrill and Greg Rickabaugh

Posted on 07/21/2005 3:54:20 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

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To: SC33

just enforcing existing law would be hunky dory for starts


81 posted on 07/22/2005 11:15:40 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Little Ray
valid viewpoint?

His entire repertoire consists of posting stories only about the 'benefits' of illegal immigration, ignoring direct questions about his positions on ILLEGAL as opposed to LEGAL immigration, implying racism for his detractors, and generally existing only to pee in the collective soup.

He's about as beneficial as any other troll - comic relief only. At this point, though, the joke is growing old.
82 posted on 07/22/2005 11:26:58 AM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: SC33
Our Congressmen need to hear about this incident.

"Illegal immigration" is not mentioned on Senator Dole's web site, even though every other issue is discussed there.

Same for Senator Burr's web site. BUT, he DOES have an alternative "En Espanol" web site. Maybe he discusses the problem there.

Sending them email is ineffective -- because it is lost in the thousands received daily in their offices. Snail mail is ineffective -- because of security screening and decon, they won't see it for weeks.

FAX is the only way to get a message onto their desk.

Senator Dole -- FAX: (202) 224-1100

Senator Burr -- FAX: (202) 228-2981

NC House Delegation: www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml#nc

NC residents, let them know what you think.

83 posted on 07/22/2005 11:36:41 AM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


84 posted on 07/22/2005 11:42:20 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: bayourod

You have been proven either wrong or a liar again. You are alway either one or the other or both.


85 posted on 07/22/2005 11:51:52 AM PDT by Eaker (Bayourod supports amnesty for illegal aliens that have multiple DWI’s and commit murder.)
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To: Black Tooth
Politicians are always interested in what a majority of voters want.

I could not disagree more.

In order to get elected a politician must get the votes of a majority. Any politician who fails to get that vote becomes a non politician. You can play on the margins...perhaps only 40% support a candidates position on issue A, but 60% support his position on issue B so it equals out, but the people don't elect politicians who promise to do what the people don't want done.

I think either the people really don't care about immigration as an issue, or other pressing issues like taxes, terrorism, and abortion supersede illegal immigration as an issue.

I know you disagree. Would you care to elaborate your statement?

I would be very interested to know what you consider your 5 top issues are? Mine are:
1 Life
2 Defense
3 Taxes
4 Guns
5 Trade

To be perfectly honest I could vote for a gun grabber or trade isolationist if they were strong on abortion, defense, and taxes and the rat was deficient in all categories as usual.

86 posted on 07/22/2005 12:07:50 PM PDT by Once-Ler (16 months til Byrd's ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: Once-Ler
In order to get elected a politician must get the votes of a majority.

This is true, and has been for a long time.

Watch for big changes in the future. People can be fooled and lied too only so many times, until they finally realize they've been had. Even those the have not been paying attention, are now attentive.

The change is coming, and politics, the two entrenched party's and business as usual will be forced to change by the people. The mood of the people is changing, and many are very unhappy with much of what is happening today, regarding supporting half the world, liberal policies, the borders and our standard of living.

87 posted on 07/22/2005 12:24:56 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth
People can be fooled and lied too only so many times, until they finally realize they've been had.

I'm sorry, I'm unsure who these "people" are. Is it Republicans and rats? Because I think most Republicans and rats know who they voted for. For example, very few Bush voters can stand up and shout "Hey! Bush said he would do this and then he didn't do it." They can say it on a few issues like CFR and...well I can't think of any others, but on taxes, judicial nominees, and Medicare reform Dubya has done what he said he would do. Who are the fooled and lied to "people" please?

The change is coming, and politics, the two entrenched party's and business as usual will be forced to change by the people.

What usually happens when both parties ignore a problem is a 3rd party rises to prominence running on a platform of fixing the ignored problem. Then one or both of the major parties adopt the majority position. Do you see a viable 3rd party rising?

88 posted on 07/22/2005 12:51:56 PM PDT by Once-Ler (16 months til Byrd's ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: Eaker
After the Campo riot, it's pretty clear that the OBLs are communists ("Socialst Workers Party") and anarchists, with the goal of destroying a free USA.

They just lie about their allegience, hence "false flag freepers."

89 posted on 07/22/2005 12:58:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: blackie
Minutemen Rock!

Immigration Leftists Ted Kennedy and George Bush do not.

90 posted on 07/22/2005 1:19:31 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Travis McGee; humblegunner; Flyer; Squantos

It is really amazing that rod chooses to side with an illegal alien with three DWI's and is a murderer rather than to stand with America.

This is indeed a blight on the great State of Texas.


91 posted on 07/22/2005 1:40:24 PM PDT by Eaker (Bayourod supports amnesty for illegal aliens that have multiple DWI’s and commit murder.)
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To: Ides of March

Exactly, I like to fax them as well. I was actually looking for a way to send each and every one of these sad stories to our congressmen every time something like this happens. Looking into it now.


92 posted on 07/22/2005 2:18:14 PM PDT by SC33
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; All
North Carolina has about 300,000 illegal immigrants, one of the highest populations in the country, according to one recent study

Yes, my friends, it's not just about the border states anymore.

If you were an illegal, would you go to an obvious place like California, Arizona, or New Mexico?

You'd go to Oklahoma City, Des Moines, or Knoxville. The Midwest is seeing a big influx of aliens--and not just the ones seen by guys in pickup trucks in cornfields on remote highways, either!
93 posted on 07/22/2005 2:47:55 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: janetgreen
I wonder how they sleep at night

Quite well, actually; if they're high up enough. They've got bunkers were the worst scenario--nuclear strike inside the U.S.--to happen. Tom Tancredo was briefed on concerns involving just such a scenario, and of course, we know what the media and certain elements of the Republican party have done to him.

Anything short of the Apocalypse is just a hot-button issue: the OBLs fighting the conservatives, Kennedy trying to write immigration reform, heroes like the Minutemen being called vigilantes by their own president--follow the money.
94 posted on 07/22/2005 2:58:48 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Das Outsider

I've heard about the bunkers, but of course they're NOT for the "little people". The politicians lack something that most Americans have, though, and it's called conscience.


95 posted on 07/22/2005 4:23:48 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: SC33

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org


96 posted on 07/22/2005 5:38:29 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Once-Ler

Yes.


97 posted on 07/22/2005 6:48:35 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth
Yes.

That's quite a powerful case you've made for your opinion. Well done.

98 posted on 07/22/2005 8:00:53 PM PDT by Once-Ler (16 months til Byrd is ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: Once-Ler
What usually happens when both parties ignore a problem is a 3rd party rises to prominence running on a platform of fixing the ignored problem.

I think you're starting to get it.

99 posted on 07/23/2005 11:56:28 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Hatteras

He was thinking that a Subaru was the only car he could afford. Two years earlier he lost his job because of the economy. Then, a few months after, his daughter was born 2 months premature and they were paying of her HUGE medical bills. His wife is a stay at home mom and he worked his butt off just to make ends meat to provide for his family. He was thinking that he should be able to take his family on their first ever vacation and have a good time. Do not criticize this man ever again. He was a wonderful father and a wonderful husband. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying anything like that.


100 posted on 09/19/2005 7:23:27 PM PDT by Topsailisland
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