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Muslims Keep Up Criticism of Tancredo
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/20/05 | Diana Elias - AP

Posted on 07/20/2005 3:27:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Chgogal

Oh baby, I love it when you talk nukes!


301 posted on 07/20/2005 7:17:42 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Those who do are more likely to do so than those that don't.)
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To: TAquinas
Thanks for the link! Great after dinner entertainment. I will have some fun time going through all the posts and checking all the posters whose name rhymes with "lame".

I do hope the talking points of six months ago were more imaginative and cogent, however.

302 posted on 07/20/2005 7:18:40 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Dane

I heard you post about the propaganda points that Tancredo gave the Islamofascists.

But I've yet to see what you think those points ARE.

Is it that the Islamofascists can now claim to the 'moderate' Muslims that America is a crazy, Islam-hating country that is willing to destroy the most sacred of Muslim holy sites if the Islamofascists attack? And that they will attack America, knowing full-well what the response will be?

Boy, now THAT'S a great propaganda point. I'm sure that 'moderate' Muslims would be ever-so-greatful to the Islamofascists for endangering their most sacred city with destruction.

Or is there another propaganda point that I've missed?




This is kinda like saying that having the US announce the policy of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) gave Stalin propaganda points during the Cold War.


303 posted on 07/20/2005 7:20:50 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Eagle Eye

Glad you enjoyed it.

:)


304 posted on 07/20/2005 7:21:27 PM PDT by Chgogal
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To: gogogodzilla
This is kinda like saying that having the US announce the policy of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) gave Stalin propaganda points during the Cold War

Everybody knew it and politicians didn't try to get cheap political headlines by stating so.

305 posted on 07/20/2005 7:23:59 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Eagle Eye
Oh baby, I love it when you talk nukes!

Ain't nothing like nookie-lear in Mecca!

306 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Dane
Now you've changed the premise of the argument. Is it giving the ragheads propaganda points or the fact that a politician got headlines for stating the truth of how many feel?
307 posted on 07/20/2005 7:28:12 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Why not just kill Muslims at a rate triple that of their birthrate?

And let them know that the killing will continue until all Muslim attacks on the West stop completely.

Eventually, the Muslims will have to police themselves. And if not, well, very shortly there would not BE any Muslims to attack us.

It's slow enough to allow the Muslims to change their attitude and behavior, but quick enough to end the problem if they don't.

And it still leaves the Muslim world with a choice. Peace and Life, or War and Death.

It'd would also shut the liberals up a bit, once the Muslims make that choice.


308 posted on 07/20/2005 7:29:38 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: tobyhill
Now you've changed the premise of the argument. Is it giving the ragheads propaganda points or the fact that a politician got headlines for stating the truth of how many feel?

I haven't changed anything. Look over my replies, I have stated both that tancredo gave the islamofascists propaganda points and that he said it to get cheap political headlines.

309 posted on 07/20/2005 7:32:03 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: warsaw44

Tancredo's office should issue a statement to the Egyptian al-Ghad Party stating,

"When an Islamic country that loves peace and rejects arrogance and violence is found, an apology will be made... to that country. Unfortunately, as of yet, we have not been able to find an Islamic country that fits your definition. Have a nice day!"


310 posted on 07/20/2005 7:34:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Dane

Wow, so you DO think that Stalin got propaganda points from the US policy of MAD...

Amazing.

I think that MAD stopped Stalin's ambitions on Western Europe, and weakened his position in the world.

And I think that having a policy to nuke (MOAB, neutron bomb, whatever) Mecca will have the same effect on Islamofascists.

It will weaken their influence in Islam.


311 posted on 07/20/2005 7:43:14 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Dane
How is it cheap political headlines when it's how a lot of people feel, including himself? Should he never tell the public how he really feels or lie about it so it can't be called a political stunt? How is it giving "islamofascists propaganda points" when they're already maxed out? Should everyone not say anything because it may make them mad? Screw the damn ragheads! I've always been amazed at a culture that values a goat more than a person.
312 posted on 07/20/2005 7:44:19 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Wil H

good one. who was it that said from 1980-2000 South Korea had applied for something like 20,000 patents. In all of the arab/muslim world in that same time-frame there were less than a thousand? We are truly wasting a LOT of time and energy on such a waste of humanity. A couple of quick and PAINFUL shots across the bow and this nonsense would cease immediately!!!


313 posted on 07/20/2005 7:48:10 PM PDT by Jazzman1
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To: tobyhill
How is it cheap political headlines when it's how a lot of people feel, including himself? Should he never tell the public how he really feels or lie about it so it can't be called a political stunt?

Saying blowing up mecca doesn't help and only give ammunition to al-jezeera and the islamofascists.

There is a saying of don't give your enemies the hammer to beat you with, which tancredo did.

He could have said any response would be forceful and overpowering, which would have gotten the message out, instead of giving the islamofascists a hammer with saying of blowing up mecca.

I have stated I don't like tancredo. IMO, he is a self-serving egotist and opprotunist who appeals to the worst in people, such as when he backstabbed Tom Delay.

314 posted on 07/20/2005 7:51:47 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

So, what did you think when Reagan made, what is now considered his brilliant "Evil Empire" remarks?


315 posted on 07/20/2005 7:52:35 PM PDT by Chgogal
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To: Chgogal

While I agree with Rep. Tancredo on this, I had to take the thought just a little further down the trail, as it were.

If we were attacked, and we retalited by vaporising Mecca, Medina, and few other muslim sites....who's to say that oh, Russia, or China, or India, or any other nuclear power (this includes Pakistan) might not like that very much and might instigate a global thermonuclear war?

That possibility does indeed exist, whether we want to believe it or not. If we nuke a major foreign city, even though other nations know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we could vaporize their entire country, they might take offense of us removing islamic holy sites from existence....even if, in the long run, it would benefit them.

That offense might take the form of a bunch of missles headed towards our shores.

Then what?


316 posted on 07/20/2005 7:52:48 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
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To: Publius6961

"Tancredo handed the Islamofascists valuable propaganda points?"

Did you borrow that talking point from Dane, or did you just cut-and-paste from his posts?


317 posted on 07/20/2005 7:52:53 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences: Tom Tancredo for President 2008/2012.)
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To: Chgogal
So, what did you think when Reagan made, what is now considered his brilliant "Evil Empire" remarks?

There is a differnce in making a policy speech and pointing out correctly that the soviet union was an evil empire. Reagan did not pepper his remarks with blowing up Moscow.

Tancredo could have done the same about islmofascism, but gave the islamofascists propaganda points with his pepering his remarks with blowing up mecca.

318 posted on 07/20/2005 7:56:53 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: NormsRevenge

He only said what we all hope will happen if there is a big attack inside the US. The "Root Cause" of Muslim terrorism is a Muslim who reads the Koran and understands what it tells him/her to do.


319 posted on 07/20/2005 7:59:47 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RATS have struck out but they continue to run the bases)
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To: John Lenin
He only said what we all hope will happen if there is a big attack inside the US

I'm not hoping for a big attack in the US, are you insinuating tancredo is?

320 posted on 07/20/2005 8:01:21 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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