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AP: William Westmoreland dead
Associated Press | July 18, 2005

Posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

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To: JimSEA

All the more reason for us to never abandon Iraq.


81 posted on 07/18/2005 8:38:21 PM PDT by JellyJam (Headline of the year: "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists Are Muslims!")
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
You got that right.

I'm starting to think that the DemocRATS and their toads in the "media" are once again trying to handcuff our military and get more people killed like they did in Vietnam. It breaks my heart to think of the zoomies (pilots and aviators) we lost over Haipong harbor because the maggots in our government wouldn't let them return fire on the Russian merchant marines who were firing up at them.

82 posted on 07/18/2005 8:39:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Sad news.

You were a great American, sir. R.I.P., General Westmoreland.

83 posted on 07/18/2005 8:39:51 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." - Heraclitus)
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To: cynicom
I've stood at the graves of American soldiers across Europe and at grave site across this country.

We owe them all a debt, yet the ambiguity as to the sacrifice of Vietnam leaves me with a feeling of great sadness.

84 posted on 07/18/2005 8:40:08 PM PDT by zarf
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To: NormsRevenge

Lt. Gen. William C. Westmoreland, the new U.S. Commander of Military Assistance Command, Vietnam (MACV), is shown at a ceremony in Saigon, Vietnam, on June 20, 1964. Retired Gen. William Westmoreland, who commanded American troops in Vietnam died Monday night, July 18, 2005. (AP Photo)


85 posted on 07/18/2005 8:40:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Dont Mention the War
To paraphrase Douglas MacArthur one more old soldier has faded away. I hope he wrote it all down. The whole story of Vietnam from the commander. When the last of the hippies and commmie MSM psudo-journalists are gone perhaps then my kids can read the truth about the war. As told by the men who fought the battles and lived out the the 4,856 days that were Vietnam
86 posted on 07/18/2005 8:40:41 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Iwo Jima; cynicom
The military did not lose the conflict in SE Asia. The government did.

The military did not lose the war. Washington did.

Bump that.

87 posted on 07/18/2005 8:40:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lakey

I agree -

RIP General


88 posted on 07/18/2005 8:41:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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Army Joint Chiefs General William C. Westmoreland is shown in this Jan. 5, 1972 file photo. Retired Gen. William Westmoreland, who commanded American troops in Vietnam died Monday night, July 18, 2005. (AP Photo/File)


89 posted on 07/18/2005 8:42:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Dont Mention the War
I'm afraid that this is going to restart the quagmire talk, because they will be discussing Westmoreland's role in conducting the war in Vietnam, and will remake the comparisons to Iraq once more.

On the other hand, maybe the MSM will use this as a face-saving opportunity to back away from the Plame Game.

-PJ

90 posted on 07/18/2005 8:43:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Rest in peace, General.


91 posted on 07/18/2005 8:44:38 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: gusopol3

Kennedy and Johnson are perfect examples of why the voters reject Senators for President. Senators look strong with all their lifer Senator buddies backing them up, but they are gutless wonders in the you're on your own, Oval office.

The Senate is Governments weakest link.


92 posted on 07/18/2005 8:45:10 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats-the invent an issue party.)
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To: zarf
Zarf...

The ambiguity lies within you.

This country has been made great because we have always been willing to fight the wars to protect our freedom as well as the freedom of others. Would you have us withdraw from the world, leaving it to the madmen such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao and the likes of a looming enemy in China?

93 posted on 07/18/2005 8:48:11 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Dane; SevenofNine

The show you are all referring to is "The Uncounted Enemy: A Vietnam Deception." That story was forced on me in an unpleasant way.

C.I.A. agent Sam Adams was the person who was the biggest advocate of the theory that military was intentionally undercounting the number of enemy soldiers. He proved to be one of the main, if not the main, source for the show.

Anyway, Adams' son went to the same high school as me. Sam Adams came in and gave a lecture, and the entire school watched a tape of "The Uncounted Enemy." The school was very left-wing, and we all booed William Westmoreland.

We cheered on Adams, but there was a lot that was questionable about him. He admitted the show used tricks and distortions, and he didn't seem to have a problem with that. He had no hard evidence for his charges.

Anyway, it was one of the first times that questions in my mind arose about liberalism, and you see where the thought process led me. That show set out to smear Westmoreland. I hope no one gives it an ounce of credibility on this date when we mourn Westmoreland. I'm sure my fellow freepers don't give it any credibility!


94 posted on 07/18/2005 8:49:13 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: cynicom

Didn't lose--just capitulated to MSM keeping horror pictures and "quagmire" in our faces on the TV.

My husband served under Westmoreland in Germany just before Vietnam got cranked up good. He was highly respected by the troops.

vaudine


95 posted on 07/18/2005 8:51:00 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: F.J. Mitchell

it may sound oxymoronic, but you sound like Goldwater regarding the other two; can't get many to view Kennedy from a '60's perspective--they all see him as a forceful conservative anti-communist (meanwhile the left spins he was going to get us out of VN 11/23/63) Talk about Teflon!


96 posted on 07/18/2005 8:51:15 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: dfwgator

I am thinking back to that time.
Words fail to describe the fear we knew as children. The fear was real. We were on the brink several times I am aware of and who knows how many other times?

No, they did not die in vain. We may have lost that battle, but for the sacrifices of those on that wall, and all that came home we no longer had to live in fear.

Because of them, my children did not have to know that fear.

My first grandchild is due in December. We have a new generation of quiet heros making the ultimate sacrifice for what the left says is a "lie."

One day my grandchildren will look back on this war and say "It was not in vain."


97 posted on 07/18/2005 8:51:34 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: steveegg

Thanks for the ping.


98 posted on 07/18/2005 8:53:21 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Error: No Keyboard: Press F1 to Continue.)
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To: Our man in washington
We cheered on Adams, but there was a lot that was questionable about him. He admitted the show used tricks and distortions, and he didn't seem to have a problem with that. He had no hard evidence for his charges.

The Michael Moore of his day.

99 posted on 07/18/2005 8:54:24 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: NormsRevenge
Rest in peace General Westmoreland.

Thanks for the pics Norm.

100 posted on 07/18/2005 8:56:33 PM PDT by glock rocks
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