Posted on 07/17/2005 8:37:17 PM PDT by CHARLITE
the forged documents were planted by the French to discredit what was otherwise a good piece of intel about Iraq and Niger.
what are you suggesting, the Plame's CIA group knew the document was going to show this, because they knew it was a plant?
that's correct, they were essentially the "middleman" between Iraq and Niger - that's why they have the motive (along with the american left) to discredit the story by planting forged documents as a poison pill.
still, I don't think Fitzgerald is going to be able to pull this off and get to the bottom of it all - too many secrets, Miller won't talk (if I were her, I'd have somebody tasting my food if you know what I mean), etc.
I read another article about the WMDs and the oil for food program. The article proposed that perhaps the reason that Saddam didn't expose the fact that he had no weapons of mass destruction was because he didn't want the sanctions to end. That's right, the sanctions were actually working to Saddam's benefit.
By keeping the sanctions going, it made the Iraqi people dependent on Saddam and mistrustful of the Americans, and really was freeing Saddam to spend tons of money the way he wanted and make all sorts of deals with France and Russia, all the while undermining the status of the United States in the eyes of the world.
That is the main illogical fact.
Why would a hard core Dem journalist go to jail to protect a GOP source, especialy if it ment bringing down Rove. They would be a hero for life, amongst the Dems, right up there with Woodward and Bernstein.
It just doesn't make sense, she must be protecting a Dem source.
Appears that somebody was worried right after 9/11/01 about Saddam.
Who aside from Saddam had the most to loose if Saddam was dethroned???
Wonder what sent the alarm bells off so soon after 9/11/01 to have Wilson selected and on the ground in Niger by Feb. 02?
The liberals have touted from the beginning there was no connection between Saddam and OBL, yet somebody was worried about "yellowcake" shortly after 9/11/01.
In September 2002, the British government published a white paper in which it made public British intelligence's belief that Saddam had tried to buy uranium in Africa. A month later, the CIA received from an Italian source documents purporting to show that Niger and Iraq had done a deal. These turned out to be forgeries.
President Bush mentioned the British findings in his State of the Union address in January 2003. In his leaks to Pincus, and earlier to New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, Wilson claimed Bush knew this was false. The key sentence in Pincus' story is this:
"Among the envoy's conclusions was that the documents may have been forged because 'the dates were wrong and the names were wrong,' the former U.S. government official said."
Wilson's official role ended when he returned from Niger in March. The CIA didn't get the Italian forgeries until October. Wilson had no access to them. He either was making up what he told Kristof and Pincus, or he had received an unauthorized leak of classified information.
Key Iraqi said to counter U.S. claims on tubes, bomb project
Associated Press ^ | 07-17-03
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/948088/posts#13
To: Dog
BTW- check out the name. Jacques Baute. He's the same guy who determined that the Niger documents were false. He's the French representative to the IAEA.
13 posted on 07/17/2003 7:41:53 PM EDT by William McKinley
Dog: I have a tendency to agree with you on this. I think the investigation is beyond the Plame Game aspect and into the forgeries. I just hope that Fitzgerald would finish up his stuff and we could hear the results.
"That is the main illogical fact.
"Why would a hard core Dem journalist go to jail to protect a GOP source, especialy if it ment bringing down Rove. They would be a hero for life, amongst the Dems, right up there with Woodward and Bernstein."
I used this argument and my little list today with a medical professional who likes to be the devil's advocate. I told him to name one liberal who would go to jail to protect Karl Rove, Cheney, Rummey, Powell or GW being exposed as a source.
He couldn't answer with a single lib in the media or politics. When he tried to change the subject, I told him getting us/the conservatives and moderates to believe that Miller is protecting Rove et al is not going to fly.
Interesting line of thought. Trying to relate that to another idea I've been pondering: maybe the way Miller enters into the investigation is that the prosecutor is wondering if whoever leaked that information to Wilson in the US was also talking to Andrew Gilligan in Britain. The British investigation of the latter considered as one possible suspect David Kelly, who was in contact with Miller before he died. Maybe Fitzgerald wants to talk to Miller about any knowledge she has of what Kelly said about the Gilligan leak investigation to see if it has any relevance to the leaks associated with Wilson and Plame.
Oops .. I posted the wrong link
Sorry about that
Leak Probe May Expand Beyond White House [Pentagon,State Dept.]
Associated Press ^ | October 2, 2003 | Curt Anderson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/993832/posts?page=22#22
To: AntiGuv; MJY1288
MJ heard on CSPAN today the host read an news article from today in which the Justice Dept will seek the Wilson's phone records..
22 posted on 10/02/2003 2:21:42 PM EDT by Dog
Phone records? Hot dog! NOW we're getting somewhere! LOL!
Are your statements just a logical result of your reasoning? It does make sense. Veddy intuhdestink!
Joseph Wilson on C-SPAN at 7:45am Eastern, Monday
C-SPAN ^ Posted on 09/29/2003 7:36:40 AM EDT by leadpenny
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991382/posts
By the way, while I was reading that thread I see that Wilson said he could write that op-ed because he went as a representative of the "broader US government" and not the CIA. What a pice of work that guy is!
I want him thrown in jail because he is so darned obnoxious!
IMO .. he wants to see her notes and she won't hand them over ..
Also remember Miller is the one that tipped off that Charity that was funding the Terrorists
Off Topic a bit ... But Mark is on a ROLL tonight ripping into Russert, the Libs and Wilson apart .. *L*
Mo can I get a link to holdonnows show.
I keep a links on my profile page .. down towards the bottom
http://www.wabcradio.com/ListenLive.asp
He's talking about Judges now
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