Posted on 07/17/2005 12:05:52 PM PDT by Graybeard58
You're the one who supports lawbreaking by foreigners in the United States. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Your only defense when you're pressed on this issue is to resort to name-calling. Now you bring up "hate speech" because we speak out against illegal immigration. You're starting to sound more and more like a Liberal every day.
Best idea I've read here in a long time.
Never the less, Greg Craig was, is, and always will be a mango tree lawyer. He’s the shyster pimp (friend of the Clintons) who sent Elian Gonzales back to Cuba.
So do I. Too bad you assumed the worst in me before you put your fingers up your......
read post 22
"We've had enough immigration -- legal and illegal."
read post 22
To some extent I fall in this category. I am not against legal immigration but I favor reduced numbers and I think we should have an immigration policy that serves the interests and is consistent with the will of the existing citizenry (government for the people).
The majority of Americans understand that their interests are not served by mass immigration. Almost every poll on the subject shows that Americans want illegal immigration stopped, want legal immigration to either remain the same or be reduced, don't approve of amnesty and don't want a guest worker program. I think a representative government should govern in accordance with the will of the existing citizenry rather than flooding the labor market for the benefit of and in accordance with the will of a few rich elites.
It is a matter of both numbers and quality. Part of the problem is that there are too many immigrants coming and it is wrecking things like health care and schools. Our own children can't get a decent education, at least in part because the schools are too busy helping kids that don't speak English. Another part of the problem is quality. I have a lot less heartburn with an immigrant that can hit the ground running and be a success and net contributor to our tax base from day one. I'm willing to take pretty much as many doctors and engineers as India wants to send. But most illegal immigrants are ignorant and ill equipped to prosper in our economy and represent a cost to taxpayers no matter how long they stay or how hard they work.
but these groups would still be against the mexican and chinese immigrants.
In my case, that is true enough. The illegals will still be a burden on taxpayers after they get amnesty and will get even more expensive once they get cut in on the full buffet of social benefits.
And by the way, I am a Hispanic. This is not about racism but rather rule of law.
If you don't have an argument that holds water against a loyal and sovereign citizen of a nation, pick on their spelling or grammar to get them to stop.
Rule #3 for "free trade" "open border" internationalists
I read it (again) and agree with the poster.
It IS expensive to me, the taxpayer, the way this is being handled!!!!!!
In other words, it doesn't matter whether someone makes a distinction between legal and illegal immigration, YOU know deep in your heart what they're REALLY thinking and what they're "trying to hide."
The mind police's favorite phrase: "papers please."
Hardly so. Anyone who likes to carp about English had better be rather stellar in it use themselves or someone may come along to rub their noses with their own words.
"in it use" ---> "in its use"
Fair enough. But I am not one who carps about foreigners and ESL all the time.
I think the anti illegal immigration groups are also anti legal immigration also."
LINK, Facts, Proof?
No problem. Have a nice day.
I always wonder if those that propose rewarding people who break our laws are willing to swing that pendulum to it's logical conclusion.
If someone steals your car, would you be willing to allow them to keep it even though you would still have to make the payments?
Should bank robbers be allowed to keep the money that they stole even if it came out of your account and you wouldn't get it back?
If someone breaks into your house and steals everything, shouldn't they be allowed to keep it and forgo prosecution?
If an identity thief stole the equity out of your house and maxed out a bunch of credit cards in your name, would you give them a pass and assume the payments on all the debt?
So Cultural Jihad and bayourod, inquiring minds want to know.
"We've had enough immigration -- legal and illegal."
Post #22 wasn't quoting anything from the article. It was posted by a FReeper who was expressing their personal opinion on the subject. But you posted the following comment:
A guest worker program and or amnesty would make the illegals into legals, but these groups would still be against the mexican and chinese immigrants.
So you were simply expressing your personal opinion when you posted this, correct?
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