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Top Santorum Aide Outed As Gay
San Luis Obispo Tribune ^ | 7/15/2005 | Steve Goldstein

Posted on 07/16/2005 12:12:46 PM PDT by gopgen

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To: Echo Talon

That's why this has been released. The Dems hope that we will, once again, "eat our own".


101 posted on 07/16/2005 1:42:03 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Howlin
You have gotten all the way to the Gop platform??? Interesting.

Let's say that Tom DeLay hired his family members to run his campaign? Does he, as an independent person, have the right to hire he wants for his own campaign?

Or let's say that the "First Church of the Baptist Brethren" hire workers for their nursery services.

Do they have the right to hire who they want?

Would you be surprised that they hire those who fit their public message?

Are you saying that if the First Church of Baptist Brethren does not hire homosexuals for their nursery that they are bigots?

So you side with the ACLU on this one?

Or do you think that private enterprises should be allowed to hire those who match their message?

102 posted on 07/16/2005 1:42:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: pa mom
This guy's actions are between him and God.

Well, everyone's actions are.

But that's no reason to go out and commit/support immorality.

103 posted on 07/16/2005 1:42:36 PM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: Delphinium

So what would you do if you worked with a gay person? Do you ignore them?

How should we handle this? It's fine to say Santorum shouldn't hire him, but who should? And then should everyone in that company have to agree so as not to risk sending the whole lot of them to Hell? Is my whole neighborhood going to Hell because we don't kick out the gay couple?

They will always be among us, they always have been. Unless God is going to conveniently kill them all every once in a while a la Sodom, we have to live with them.


104 posted on 07/16/2005 1:43:43 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Delphinium

Was he looking for them?


105 posted on 07/16/2005 1:44:43 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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To: airborne
That's why this has been released. The Dems hope that we will, once again, "eat our own".

Yep, and wish the mods would take a few of these pieces of bait, and MODERATE the "eaters"

106 posted on 07/16/2005 1:44:52 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: EverOnward

To get the right wing fringe in a twitter.


107 posted on 07/16/2005 1:45:33 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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To: gopgen

Only the leftist bigots will think it is wrong to be a gay conservative.


108 posted on 07/16/2005 1:45:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: k2blader

But is hiring a gay supporting his lifestyle? Should we not be friends or neighbors to gays? I don't have to like the gay agenda, but if they are not running around in Greenwich Village Halloween Parade wear or openly making out, I don't care.


109 posted on 07/16/2005 1:45:54 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: All

Random question.

How many making noise on this thread..

Have been trying to make sure Santorum loses re-election? Just curious if this is really about the subject, or if some people want him to lose so badly they'll even use a despicable practice by the Democrats to further their agenda.


110 posted on 07/16/2005 1:45:59 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

Certainly on the fiscal side, but I think his daughter might have caused him to reconsider his social conservatism. But, I get that only from his silence. For all I know, he still considers homosexuality to be a terrible affliction that leads to countless deaths at very early ages. Cheney, however, did not hire his daughter. One simply loves ones children.

On the other hand, Santorum did hire his top aide. The question is what about that top aide's sexual preferences he knew when he hired him.


111 posted on 07/16/2005 1:46:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dane
change his views

This is not about changing views. It's about the underlying philosophy that helps forms his views.

112 posted on 07/16/2005 1:47:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: wingman1
Should I have said that God is offended by all sin EQUALLY?

Jesus himself told Pilate that Judas was guilty of the "greater sin", which clearly argues against the idea that all sin is equally offensive to the Lord. There are other applicable Biblical references, but this one's kinda hard to argue against since it comes straight from the mouth of the Ultimate Authority.

For what it's worth, I'm with you in this debate. The employee's homosexuality shouldn't be disqualifying in this case at all.

113 posted on 07/16/2005 1:47:23 PM PDT by AHerald (If Jesus needed to pray, how much more then do we need to pray?)
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To: xzins
Questioning someone's conservatism does not mean I've suggested he fire his staff.

Why don't you quit dancing around and say it?

You don't think people who don't run screaming into the street when they're near gays CAN be conservatives.

114 posted on 07/16/2005 1:47:47 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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To: xzins
On the other hand, Santorum did hire his top aide. The question is what about that top aide's sexual preferences he knew when he hired him

And again I ask you how has that changed Santorum's rhetoric.

If anything if Mr. Traynham disagreed with his employer, he would have left long ago.

115 posted on 07/16/2005 1:48:10 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Echo Talon

ping to #111


116 posted on 07/16/2005 1:48:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Soul Seeker
Define Traditional.

"Traditional" was the descriptor he came up with after I asked if people who aren't scared to death of gays were "real, true" conservatives.

117 posted on 07/16/2005 1:49:24 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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To: Echo Talon
Care to define it for me?

Just watch HBO, and see the unnatural acts they perform. It harms their bodies in many ways other than just getting, and spreading aids etc.. The whole lifestyle is very sad.

I know because I have actually had homosexuals who I considered friends , who confided some of this sad, sick stuff in detail to me.
118 posted on 07/16/2005 1:50:22 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: pa mom

We will just have to disagree on this issue.

I suspect if it were one of Hillary's aides who had been "outed" some folks' reactions would be quite different.


119 posted on 07/16/2005 1:50:23 PM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: Echo Talon
Yep, and wish the mods would take a few of these pieces of bait, and MODERATE the "eaters"

As long as it's a give and take debate among FRiends, I see no reason to. But when it gets to the point of attacking fellow Freepers, that does bother me.

120 posted on 07/16/2005 1:50:29 PM PDT by airborne
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