Posted on 07/15/2005 3:32:25 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
See my post #60.
And these Einsteins are our betters??
That is WAYYYYY more important than immigration/borders!!!!
Shaking my head in disbelief.
Thats right.. Keep putting it off so more and more can enter the country. Lets get as many as possible in this country before makeing any attempts to stop them.
Law enforcement, for the most part, tries to control crime such as burglary, murder, speeders, j-walkers, etc.
Why is it that illegal immigration is not treated as a crime?
Some pro-illegals on this board say that it would be fruitless to even attempt to arrest and deport those in this country illegally due to their numbers. Why?
I would dare say there are a hell of a lot more speeders in this country than illegals yet law enforcement still makes an attempt to enforce the law. But for whatever reason, enforcing immigration laws are impossible according to the anti America folks.
JMO
As far as saving it for election year, I am pondering that possibility myself and it better darn be in the works.
After all, with the utter confusion on the D-team, another scandal down the toilet, they are defeated and likely to get even crazier with SCOTUS nominee(s) coming up.
They will spend two or three weeks trying to "Rove" Bolton if he gets recess appointed. The D-team is utterly befuddled, disheveled and planless.
IF the GOP majority can get its own plan together first, possibly they can make it the '06 issue, with the democrats still replaying '04, '02 & '00 in their minds over and over again.
They D-team is right back on the ropes as before the gang of 14 fiasco. If our represenatives want to deliver a knockout, it's there for the taking on any forward looking issue.
I think there are alot of senators that could do better than Frist has done. We are still on defense in the Senate. Why? Frist is accountable for the answer.
To find stronger potential, maybe look due south of TN, or get on I-40 and take a 2 day drive west.
We ought to be pouring the coal to the locomotive. Instead we are diddlying around checking to make sure the crew does not have a cold.
Hey Freepers, think here. The last thing you should want to be brought up is an immigration bill. The only ones out there all allow illegals to eventually get U.S. citizenship. Bush's after 3 years, McCain's makes it easy to get U.S. citizenship, as does Cornyn and Kyle's version. The last thing we need is any of these routes to citizenship for illegals, and that's all that's being touted at the moment in the Senate. What we want is current laws enforced, businessmen who hire illegals fined or otherwise punished, no more anchor babies, our borders either fenced off or better patrolled, and illegals actually rounded up and sent back to wherever they came from. None of the current bills or ideas for bills would do this; just establish various types of guest worker programs w/eventual U.S. citizenship attached.
Frist knows that if he brings up Bush's version, it will not pass. Neither will the other versions out there. So he is stalling. Also, he doesn't want such a controversial topic for discussion brought up close to the 2006 mid-term elections, which is probably a politically good idea, as it's a topic that can create a lot of voting enemies, on both sides of the issue. So don't knock Frist. He is doing what is politically practical here, and frankly, if all they have to offer is Bush's plan that stinks, as do the other versions by the likes of McCain, etc., then the last thing I want to see is this subject brought up.
That makes pretty good sense and a refreshing reality check. Can it be forestalled any longer though than '08?
What if Frist, if forced to take adopt a position, were to come out and say exactly what you did, no new laws, enforce existing ones? Am I only dreaming? Sounds like a winner to me.
I just don't understand why there is such a huge disconnect between GOP leadership and pretty much the rest of the universe. Do they not understand that shutting down the Mexican invasion will make them the majority party for the next ten years?
Bottom line: no border security, no reelection in '06.
Enforce the laws on the books, dammit, and dump garbage laws like "Special Order 40" which protect illegals. That's the ticket.
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!
Frist until recently did not even list immigration as an issue to be discussed on his website. He and Bush are like two peas from the same pod on immigration--pathetic.
Let's face it, we may see some meaningful reform coming from the House when the heat of the next elections approaches, but we're unlikely to see anything really helpful on limiting immigration from the Senate. They (with very few exceptions) are much too elitist and internationalist in their "world view".
It's way past time to throw many of these Senatorial bums out, even if they write an "R" after their name.
Lifetime professional politicians have killed this country.
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