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NY TIMES CLAIMS EXCLUSIVE NEW DETAILS OF EVENTS SURROUNDING CIA LEAK, SOURCES TELL DRUDGE...
Drudge Report ^ | July 14, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:29:59 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

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To: kcvl
The fact is that three of us - our ambassador in the field, a four-star Marine Corps general and me - were all asked to look into the possibility that such a transaction could have taken place or been contemplated by the Niger government (which incidentally had sent troops to fight with us in the first Gulf War).

A 4 star General?

442 posted on 07/14/2005 8:28:35 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Types_with_Fist
Thanks for posting link.

Fer cryin' out loud

White House officials may argue that Mr. Rove's conversation with Mr. Novak did not amount to leaking the name of the agent. But to critics of Mr. Bush - including the Democrats who have called for Mr. Rove's resignation - that is splitting hairs, and Mr. Rove in effect confirmed her identity, even if he did not name her.

And I waited for this desperation from the NYTimes?

443 posted on 07/14/2005 8:29:37 PM PDT by Alia
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To: hispanarepublicana

There'd better be more to it than that. Hell, everybody figured that much out, already.


444 posted on 07/14/2005 8:30:34 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: Mo1
In other words -- Rove was not the leak. I love how the slimes ends the story...

After his re-election last November, Mr. Bush thanked Mr. Rove, calling him "the architect" of the victory. Mr. Rove subsequently added to his role as senior adviser the title of deputy chief of staff for policy, a job that formally gave him broad authority over much of Mr. Bush's second-term agenda, including his call for an overhaul of Social Security.

Most recently, Mr. Rove has been at the center of the White House's deliberations over the choice of a nominee to succeed Justice Sandra Day O'Connor at the Supreme Court.

445 posted on 07/14/2005 8:31:07 PM PDT by max_rpf
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To: Types_with_Fist
So this is what they are going on:

Novak said his source (Rove) said "Oh, you know about it" and Rove said he said "I heard that too."

Put him in prison for that discrepancy.

446 posted on 07/14/2005 8:31:07 PM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: Alia

I think the article is actually good news for Rove, at least from the Intelligence Identities Act standpoint. Novak and Rove's stories seem to jive. It sounds like the angle the NYT is taking is that Rove may not be guilty, but he was involved in the Plame stories, so Bush should can him anyway.


447 posted on 07/14/2005 8:32:43 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: Raycpa

So Rove heard it from Novak, interesting. So who did Novak hear it from.


448 posted on 07/14/2005 8:32:55 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Raycpa
What part of The person discussed the matter in the belief that Mr. Rove was truthful in saying he did not disclose Ms. Wilson's identity. does the NYT not understand?


449 posted on 07/14/2005 8:33:24 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: Raycpa
There's no there there.

Seems like a weak reason for a siren, and it's not even before Drudge's Sunday night show.

450 posted on 07/14/2005 8:34:02 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Raycpa

You going to get in trouble with Jim by posting that much text. The NY Times is on the list:

Excerpt list

451 posted on 07/14/2005 8:34:13 PM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: Rokurota

And it still doesn't sound like Rove was the source of the leak. It sounds like reporters called him, told him what they new and he bascially agreed. Am I missing something??


452 posted on 07/14/2005 8:34:41 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: Types_with_Fist
White House officials may argue that Mr. Rove's conversation with Mr. Novak did not amount to leaking the name of the agent. But to critics of Mr. Bush - including the Democrats who have called for Mr. Rove's resignation - that is splitting hairs, and Mr. Rove in effect confirmed her identity, even if he did not name her.

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453 posted on 07/14/2005 8:35:01 PM PDT by PilloryHillary
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To: NathanBookman

You've summed it up well.


454 posted on 07/14/2005 8:35:19 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Patriot from Philly
After hearing Mr. Novak's account, the person who has been briefed on the matter said, Mr. Rove told the columnist: "I heard that, too."

That's it??? All the NY Times has is that Rove HEARD it was Plame from OTHER JOURNALISTS - he didn't CONFIRM IT and DIDN'T LEAK THE NAME TO NOVAK. The NY Times is grasping at straws.

This story is dead'r than fried chicken.

455 posted on 07/14/2005 8:35:53 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Raycpa

Rove Reportedly Held Phone Talk on C.I.A. Officer
By DAVID JOHNSTON and RICHARD W. STEVENSON

WASHINGTON, July 14 - Karl Rove, the White House senior adviser, spoke with the columnist Robert D. Novak as he was preparing an article in July 2003 that identified a C.I.A. officer who was undercover, someone who has been officially briefed on the matter said Thursday.

Mr. Rove has told investigators that he learned from the columnist the name of the C.I.A. officer, who was referred to by her maiden name, Valerie Plame, and the circumstances in which her husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, traveled to Africa to investigate possible uranium sales to Iraq, the person said.

After hearing Mr. Novak's account, the person who has been briefed on the matter said, Mr. Rove told the columnist: "I heard that, too."

The previously undisclosed telephone conversation, which took place on July 8, 2003, was initiated by Mr. Novak, the person who has been briefed on the matter said.

http://nytimes.com/2005/07/15/politics/15rove.html?ei=5094&en=15d2c0ff1133350b&hp=&ex=1121400000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print


456 posted on 07/14/2005 8:35:55 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Patriot from Philly
They just HAD to put this little "suggestion" in there, didn't they? They're trying to get Bush into this?

The revelation of Mr. Rove's conversation with Mr. Novak raises a question the White House has never addressed: whether Mr. Rove ever described that conversation, or his conversation with Mr. Cooper, with the president. Mr. Bush

457 posted on 07/14/2005 8:35:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: NathanBookman
Am I missing something??

No. Sounds like everybody mentioned Plame except for Rove.

458 posted on 07/14/2005 8:36:25 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Libertarian444

LOL. Leno just meant to say "Bill" in a Clinton joke, and he said "BILLARY". LOL.


459 posted on 07/14/2005 8:36:37 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: Alia
And I waited for this desperation from the NYTimes?

I wonder what the prosecutor thinks of the NYTimes "reporting" on information from the grand jury when they refuse to allow their "reporter" to testify? I wonder if this article will get someone else a trip to the grand jury? lol!

460 posted on 07/14/2005 8:36:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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