Posted on 07/13/2005 7:21:21 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
LOL!
Thanks!
Still wonedering what would possess a society to cast a huge bronze tree.
But then again, I'm still trying to figure out MODERN artists.
Squint your eyes while looking at the Bronze Image and you think you see a Mayan or an alien. The real TRUTH is OUT There.
It is now clear that Chinese culture had multiple origins and did not, as previous generations of historians confidently believed, follow a simple path from just one single source.Same fate awaits Replacement. ;')
It is a popular idea that the cradle of Chinese civilization is in the Yellow River valley about 1,000km northeast of Chengdu, and matured there before gradually spreading southward. If nothing else, this traditional concept of history is supported by ancient myths about the Yellow Emperor and other early rulers, held dear by many Chinese.Hey, the winners write the history books. That is, if they're smart they do. Like Egypt, China has cultivated the notion that the country has been unified since its beginning, now lost in dim antiquity.
The Sanxingdui culture, which blossomed from 5000BC to 3000BC, is characterized by the same radical strangeness as that unearthed at Jinsha.To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)
There's a subculture within the professional history community (to which I belong) who reject the basically PC idea of "out of Africa," and that mankind developed in several places in the world simultaneously. Some say two, some three, I've even seen an argument for seven regional development centers.
Personally, I believe that East Asians and Caucasians evolved in Central/East Asia separate from any of the others, and Caucasians separated and migrated westward heaven knows when. More and more evidence is accumulating that this partial argument for the "multiple centers" argument is true, regardless of what the PC police want us to believe.
Afrocentrism:
Mythical Pasts and Imagined Homes
by Stephen Howe
Africana
There is plenty of land, but not plenty of food except at certain times of the year. The FedGov would immediately go out of business. StateGov would remain, and LocalGov would be set up by whoever showed up to form a survival community. The People would make the best of the situation.
I assume the international community would either not respond or be in a similar situation, that is, the situation would be worldwide. Would it be Mad Max? Probably, just like the good old days in China except TribeGov would need a couple generations to get going again.
Race and Human Evolution:
A Fatal Attraction
by Milford Wolpoff
and Rachel Caspari
hardcover
One of the reasons I teach here (for fear of stalkers, I won't say where, but it's in the Triangle) is a lack of this sort of Afrocentrism crapola. I did my undergrad work at Duke, and there's a reason that rhymes with "puke." //apologies for the vulgarism
"that mask looks like Burt from Sesame Street. Hmmm...."
You've solved everything!!
yessss YES! its all falling into place now!
"then inexplicably vanished, leaving no trace behind in the historical records."
No trace, because the winners write the history books -- if they know what they're doing, that is.
How do you think about the theory that Altai Mountains area is the homeland of Aryans?
Honestly, I don't know enough about that specifically to give you a good answer. Sorry.
However, if you can give me references, I'll look them over.
I remember reading some works of Confucius. He always talked about southern kingdom where people painted their body, wore not much clothes or wore some strange decorations.
That is probably how those from the North viewed the southerners, half naked barbarians wearing funny or weird stuffs. It almost gave the impression that he was describing tribal primitives. However, it is possible he was putting them down.
Yes, but. Records are records. Civilizations have ended and left records. I wonder if we will leave records. Those plastic pieces we carry around are probably indesructable, but the data they carry may decay over time. There are billions of PCs and many would survive even a massive asteroid impact, but what about the CDs? In a thousand years would our record be nothing but a collection of Doom3 and Dune2000 games?
Well, I am not sure about that. I was reading 'History of Warfare' by British military historian Keegan(?). He mentioned it in the book.
I might do a little Altai history digging for myself when I get a chance.
John Keegan is a fantastic writer, by the way. He and John Toland are a couple of the reasons I got into my field, and am now working on three books.
That's the tree of life. Stephen Oppenheimer covers it extensively in his book, Out Of Eden.
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