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China: Archeologists shake up history(Jinsha Ruins, Sanxingdui Culture)
Taipei Times ^ | 07/13/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 7:21:21 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Darksheare
check this out
21 posted on 07/13/2005 8:02:43 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle

LOL!
Thanks!

Still wonedering what would possess a society to cast a huge bronze tree.
But then again, I'm still trying to figure out MODERN artists.


22 posted on 07/13/2005 8:04:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Squint your eyes while looking at the Bronze Image and you think you see a Mayan or an alien. The real TRUTH is OUT There.


23 posted on 07/13/2005 8:30:27 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam. The first comparison I thought of was, NW US totem poles.
It is now clear that Chinese culture had multiple origins and did not, as previous generations of historians confidently believed, follow a simple path from just one single source.
Same fate awaits Replacement. ;')
It is a popular idea that the cradle of Chinese civilization is in the Yellow River valley about 1,000km northeast of Chengdu, and matured there before gradually spreading southward. If nothing else, this traditional concept of history is supported by ancient myths about the Yellow Emperor and other early rulers, held dear by many Chinese.
Hey, the winners write the history books. That is, if they're smart they do. Like Egypt, China has cultivated the notion that the country has been unified since its beginning, now lost in dim antiquity.
The Sanxingdui culture, which blossomed from 5000BC to 3000BC, is characterized by the same radical strangeness as that unearthed at Jinsha.
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
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24 posted on 07/13/2005 8:38:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv

There's a subculture within the professional history community (to which I belong) who reject the basically PC idea of "out of Africa," and that mankind developed in several places in the world simultaneously. Some say two, some three, I've even seen an argument for seven regional development centers.

Personally, I believe that East Asians and Caucasians evolved in Central/East Asia separate from any of the others, and Caucasians separated and migrated westward heaven knows when. More and more evidence is accumulating that this partial argument for the "multiple centers" argument is true, regardless of what the PC police want us to believe.


25 posted on 07/13/2005 8:45:31 AM PDT by warchild9 (I know, I'm suggesting something outside my field. Oh well.)
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To: warchild9

Afrocentrism: Mythical Pasts and Imagined Homes Afrocentrism:
Mythical Pasts and Imagined Homes

by Stephen Howe

Africana


26 posted on 07/13/2005 8:50:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
What would happen in the US if the USDA and Bank system closed down tomorrow?

There is plenty of land, but not plenty of food except at certain times of the year. The FedGov would immediately go out of business. StateGov would remain, and LocalGov would be set up by whoever showed up to form a survival community. The People would make the best of the situation.

I assume the international community would either not respond or be in a similar situation, that is, the situation would be worldwide. Would it be Mad Max? Probably, just like the good old days in China except TribeGov would need a couple generations to get going again.

27 posted on 07/13/2005 8:51:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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Race and Human Evolution: A Fatal Attraction Race and Human Evolution:
A Fatal Attraction

by Milford Wolpoff
and Rachel Caspari
hardcover


28 posted on 07/13/2005 8:51:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

One of the reasons I teach here (for fear of stalkers, I won't say where, but it's in the Triangle) is a lack of this sort of Afrocentrism crapola. I did my undergrad work at Duke, and there's a reason that rhymes with "puke." //apologies for the vulgarism


29 posted on 07/13/2005 8:52:47 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: camle

"that mask looks like Burt from Sesame Street. Hmmm...."

You've solved everything!!

yessss YES! its all falling into place now!


30 posted on 07/13/2005 8:54:35 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: PeterPrinciple; RightWhale; TigerLikesRooster

"then inexplicably vanished, leaving no trace behind in the historical records."

No trace, because the winners write the history books -- if they know what they're doing, that is.


31 posted on 07/13/2005 8:54:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: warchild9
Re #29

How do you think about the theory that Altai Mountains area is the homeland of Aryans?

32 posted on 07/13/2005 8:56:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Honestly, I don't know enough about that specifically to give you a good answer. Sorry.


33 posted on 07/13/2005 8:59:40 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: TigerLikesRooster

However, if you can give me references, I'll look them over.


34 posted on 07/13/2005 9:00:20 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: SunkenCiv
Re #31

I remember reading some works of Confucius. He always talked about southern kingdom where people painted their body, wore not much clothes or wore some strange decorations.

That is probably how those from the North viewed the southerners, half naked barbarians wearing funny or weird stuffs. It almost gave the impression that he was describing tribal primitives. However, it is possible he was putting them down.

35 posted on 07/13/2005 9:02:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, but. Records are records. Civilizations have ended and left records. I wonder if we will leave records. Those plastic pieces we carry around are probably indesructable, but the data they carry may decay over time. There are billions of PCs and many would survive even a massive asteroid impact, but what about the CDs? In a thousand years would our record be nothing but a collection of Doom3 and Dune2000 games?


36 posted on 07/13/2005 9:03:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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Re #34

Well, I am not sure about that. I was reading 'History of Warfare' by British military historian Keegan(?). He mentioned it in the book.

37 posted on 07/13/2005 9:04:16 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I might do a little Altai history digging for myself when I get a chance.

John Keegan is a fantastic writer, by the way. He and John Toland are a couple of the reasons I got into my field, and am now working on three books.


39 posted on 07/13/2005 9:07:42 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Darksheare
"Still wondering what would possess a society to cast a huge bronze tree."

That's the tree of life. Stephen Oppenheimer covers it extensively in his book, Out Of Eden.

40 posted on 07/13/2005 9:08:57 AM PDT by blam
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