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Lawyer: Cooper “Burned” Karl Rove
NRO ^ | 7/12/05 | Byron York

Posted on 07/12/2005 1:36:26 PM PDT by Steven W.

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To: Steven W.
Matt Cooper is a damn liar (never to be trusted again) but what can you expect from someone married to Mandy Grunwald, Hillary's & Bill's political advisor and daughter of former editor of Time magazine, Henry A. Grunwald, "who led the publication's shift from conservatism to a more centrist view before becoming a United States ambassador to Vienna".

One of the most noted items of Grunwald's tenure was when he personally wrote Time's editorial during the Watergate scandal asking President Richard Nixon to resign.

"The nightmare of uncertainty must be ended," he wrote in a Nov. 12, 1973 editorial. "A fresh start must be made. Some at home and abroad might see in the president's resignation a sign of American weakness and failure. It would be a sign of the very opposite."

After serving 11 years as managing editor, Grunwald served as editor-in-chief of all Time Inc. publications _ including Fortune, Sports Illustrated, People and Money _ until retirement in 1987.

81 posted on 07/12/2005 3:20:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Steven W.

Watching the media write about Rove's "crime" reminds me of something:

"The propagandist hires a hall, rents radio stations, fills a great stadium, marches a million or at least a lot of men in a parade. He employs symbols, colors, music, movement, all the dramatic arts. He gets us to write letters, to send telegrams, to contribute to his cause. He appeals to the desire, common to most of us, to follow the crowd. Because he wants us to follow the crowd in masses, he directs his appeal to groups held together already by common ties, ties of nationality, religion, race, sex, vocation. Thus propagandists campaigning for or against a program will appeal to us as Catholics, Protestants, or Jews...as farmers or as school teachers; as housewives or as miners.

With the aid of all the other propaganda devices, all of the artifices of flattery are used to harness the fears and hatreds, prejudices and biases, convictions and ideals common to a group. Thus is emotion made to push and pull us as members of a group onto a Band Wagon." (Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938)

I still don't believe that Miller is in jail to protect Rove.


82 posted on 07/12/2005 3:21:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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To: YaYa123
Byron goes soft on Cooper in describing his last minute public announcement, merely "dramatic". I'd call it totally self-serving and intentionally deceptive.

I agree (I am a big fan of York's, but like Republicans, conservative reporters need to treat deceit with the disdain it deserves).

It was extremely self-serving and deceptive.

83 posted on 07/12/2005 3:24:22 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: eureka!

That's different grand jury.

This grand jury indeed wants information from her regarding a "specified government official" that she spoke with on or between July 6 and July 13 about Wilson, Plame, Niger or (yes, "or") Iraqi attempts to get uranium.


84 posted on 07/12/2005 3:25:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ravingnutter

Separate grand jury into the Islamic Charity business. Miller's testimony for this grand jury is about Plame, Wilson and Niger.


85 posted on 07/12/2005 3:27:04 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: eureka!
Thus, the SP knows who her 'source' was. Notwithstanding, he still wants her under oath before the GJ.

This part you have right. The subpoena refers to what the Appeals Court called a "specified government official" and I got the impression the name was known but not made public.

Incidentally, the New York Times quoted this phrase deceitfully (I think--unless it is phrased this way somewhere else that I'm not aware of) a "specified Executive Branch Official".

86 posted on 07/12/2005 3:29:56 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: normy; eureka!

That poster is mixing up two separate grand jury investigations. Please don't put out wrong information.


87 posted on 07/12/2005 3:31:21 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: LibertarianInExile
I still don't believe that Miller is in jail to protect Rove.

Neither do I. Why would she go to jail after Karl Rove already released his contacts in order for them to talk? That makes no sense. There is definitely more to this story and I don't think it's going to be in favor of the ignorant OLD MEDIA. They THINK they control the direction of news but they are sadly mistaken. Too many people have figured them out. When they start circling the wagon we know something is up.

88 posted on 07/12/2005 3:31:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cyncooper
Here is link to Podhoretz column; I'm also bewildered that I was previously unaware Cooper's wife is Mandy Grunwald - she's the moustached DemoncRAT wonder that is two degrees past "partisan hack".
89 posted on 07/12/2005 3:32:16 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: ravingnutter
I think Fitzgerald would like to get Judith Miller in front of the grand jury to discuss who leaked the raid on the Islamic charity. That leak could have gotten an FBI Agent or other LEO killed.

I think this is why she is holding out.

My guess is that Fitzgerald has expanded his scope to leaking beyond the Plame affair.

90 posted on 07/12/2005 3:32:30 PM PDT by robomurph
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To: cyncooper

Re#84 and 86. Thanks for the clarification (and nice catch on the NY Times' deceit)...


91 posted on 07/12/2005 3:34:21 PM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Steven W.

Well, I remember when Cooper and Grunwald got married!

LOL


93 posted on 07/12/2005 3:35:20 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Steven W.

Here is John's first column today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440992/posts


94 posted on 07/12/2005 3:35:28 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Steven W.

And isn't that Podhoretz column excellent?

I mean really excellent.


95 posted on 07/12/2005 3:35:55 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: robomurph; cyncooper

see #s 84, 86 and 87. I trust cyncooper on this one...


96 posted on 07/12/2005 3:36:23 PM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: robomurph

That is a different grand jury.


97 posted on 07/12/2005 3:36:45 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Steven W.

Mandy & Miller

What Washington, DC considers "the beautiful people". PUKE!

98 posted on 07/12/2005 3:36:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Steven W.

Cooper, Wilson, and every other charlatan associated with propagating this fraud on the the public ought to be so thoroughly discredited by now that no one would ever pay them the slightest respect or attention again. Unfortunately, the LSM continues to try to distort the story, and will do so to their last pathetic breaths. Rove is irrelevant to the real story, which is how Cooper and other lamebrains were carrying water for the vicious smear job being perpetrated BY Joe Wilson against Bush and in support of the Kerry campaign.


99 posted on 07/12/2005 3:38:04 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: eureka!

No problem. BTW, the Islamic Charity investigation started in August 2002.

To help search for more information, Miller's fellow Times reporter Philip Shenon is involved.

I will add that one of the latest things to happen there is the courts denied that particular grand jury's request for the New York Times' phone records saying they first have to demonstrate they have no other way to obtain the information they seek.


100 posted on 07/12/2005 3:40:10 PM PDT by cyncooper
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